: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:43 pm  

Kosh wrote:

You are Phil Clarke and I claim my fiver.

Im regularly called worse!!

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:44 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

We play 5 drives and a kick, a lot of our points in the 5 games game from short range kicks. That may be effective but relying on it like we did isnt positive and isnt attractive to me.

Lots of teams score trys from kicks. I can think of several really good trys this year that haven't come from kicks. I'm as frustrated as anybody with our play at times but the main reason its not currently working is that we are losing the battle up front so dont have the field position to attack.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:44 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

We play 5 drives and a kick, a lot of our points in the 5 games game from short range kicks. That may be effective but relying on it like we did isnt positive and isnt attractive to me.

We're not in a position to be choosy

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:45 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

We play 5 drives and a kick, a lot of our points in the 5 games game from short range kicks. That may be effective but relying on it like we did isnt positive and isnt attractive to me.

It isnt effective when your opposition know exactly thats all you are gonna throw att them !
( Apart from the extremely rare early kick by Thorman straight down the throat of an opponent )

Were not exactly hard to defend against !!!!

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:48 pm  

MR BOJANGLES wrote:

It isnt effective when your opposition know exactly thats all you are gonna throw att them !
( Apart from the extremely rare early kick by Thorman straight down the throat of an opponent )

Were not exactly hard to defend against !!!!

Yup, should have said it may have been effective for the first 5 games til teams got used to it.

Salford were able to line up 20 metres in at either side of the pitch to compress their defence and not once did we test them other than the try.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:48 pm  

Staffs FC wrote:

We're not in a position to be choosy

We are, we have the players to move away from 5 drives and a kick, im sure of it.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:50 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

Lots of teams score trys from kicks. I can think of several really good trys this year that haven't come from kicks. I'm as frustrated as anybody with our play at times but the main reason its not currently working is that we are losing the battle up front so dont have the field position to attack.

I agree, but if you are losing a battle up front why stick to the plan of 5 drives and a kick. Why not try breaking through a team like Salford on the fringes which is where they shipped their tries v rovers etc?

We are coached to be inflexible and our play is so rigid its unbelievable.

[Kosh]

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:50 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

We are, we have the players to move away from 5 drives and a kick, im sure of it.

Only if they can be arsed.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:54 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

I agree, but if you are losing a battle up front why stick to the plan of 5 drives and a kick. Why not try breaking through a team like Salford on the fringes which is where they shipped their tries v rovers etc?

We are coached to be inflexible and our play is so rigid its unbelievable.

We were losing the battle up front because the players aren't putting the required effort in. Just after we scored from deep against Salford we tried to do it again and dropped the ball. Guess what? Everyone starts moaning that we are turning the ball over too cheaply and get on the players back and they stop doing it. It wasn't just 5 drives and a kick until we made a few errors deep within our own half. The same thing happened against Cas.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:56 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

We were losing the battle up front because the players aren't putting the required effort in. Just after we scored from deep against Salford we tried to do it again and dropped the ball. Guess what? Everyone starts moaning that we are turning the ball over too cheaply and get on the players back and they stop doing it. It wasn't just 5 drives and a kick until we made a few errors deep within our own half. The same thing happened against Cas.

So why doesnt the coach get the message out to keep trying it?