: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:25 pm  

A unknown superstar wrote:

Arn't they trying to turn Hodgson into a backrower?

Scrum half > Hooker > Back row.

Houghton will get murdered in the back row!

So i hear and this despite him playing all last season at hooker in the reserves

Mind you Hull are short of back rowers

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:27 pm  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Washbrook was tried at hooker in his acadamy days as was Anthony Thackary and of course Josh Hodgson. I just don't know what this fixation is with trying to continually turn players into hookers.

Maybe because traditionally we've always tended to have good hookers, both in terms of producing them and the youngsters having quality ones to learn from.

We've also moved Washbrook from stand-off to LF, similar with Whiting, and Hodgson is now being pushed towards the back row as well.

I wonder if it would help if we brought in a coach who had been a real top-quality scrum half in his playing days? We've really lacked a senior figure who's been in that role for younger players to learn from, either on the playing or coaching staff.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:27 pm  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

So i hear and this despite him playing all last season at hooker in the reserves

Mind you Hull are short of back rowers

You must be wrong surely?

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:31 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Maybe because traditionally we've always tended to have good hookers, both in terms of producing them and the youngsters having quality ones to learn from.

We've also moved Washbrook from stand-off to LF, similar with Whiting, and Hodgson is now being pushed towards the back row as well.

I wonder if it would help if we brought in a coach who had been a real top-quality scrum half in his playing days? We've really lacked a senior figure who's been in that role for younger players to learn from, either on the playing or coaching staff.

Its a good point, though don't Hull currently have a former SH, albeit at a lower level, as head coach??? Though all the coaches underneath him were forwards.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:32 pm  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Washbrook was tried at hooker in his acadamy days as was Anthony Thackary and of course Josh Hodgson. I just don't know what this fixation is with trying to continually turn players into hookers.

And don't forget, we've got Kingy to fall back on as hooker as well.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:34 pm  

I think we should put motu back in at hooker when he returns

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:42 pm  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Its a good point, though don't Hull currently have a former SH, albeit at a lower level, as head coach??? Though all the coaches underneath him were forwards.

We do, and I thought about that when I posted. I don't mean it to come across disrespectfully or to appear as questioning of his overall ability as a coach, but in terms of passing on the tricks of the trade to youngsters surely it helps if they were in your game to begin with? Agar was a lower level player (as someone else as said though, that's not intended to be derogatory. It's still better than most can hope for) and we're producing lower level standard halfbacks. Coincidence?

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:44 pm  

knocker norton wrote:

Great minds and all that eh Paul?

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:45 pm  

geordie thorman wrote:

I think we should put motu back in at hooker when he returns

radford at loose, berro in the halves hall at fullback, king to take controll of dummy half

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:55 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

We do, and I thought about that when I posted. I don't mean it to come across disrespectfully or to appear as questioning of his overall ability as a coach, but in terms of passing on the tricks of the trade to youngsters surely it helps if they were in your game to begin with? Agar was a lower level player (as someone else as said though, that's not intended to be derogatory. It's still better than most can hope for) and we're producing lower level standard halfbacks. Coincidence?

Point is Hull don't seem to producing any. I know people will say what about Richard Horne but everyone knows he's not a half back

When people were saying Hull should approach Salford about signing Myler, I remember thinking why do they need another hooker????

Its almost beyond a joke that despite having some of the countries best young halves over the past 5 years none of them appear to have made the grade in the halves.