: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:21 am  

carl_spackler wrote:

Can't be bothered to go through all this thread but I'm guessing it's full of pretty much the same drivel as I heard in the south stand on Friday night. As with any winger, he will only thrive with service, and at the moment he's getting pretty much none. Colin Best is probably the last right winger most Hull fans tend to agree on, but is it pure coincidence that that was the last Hull team that had both a first class right centre and an attack with a quality halfback on both sides of the pitch?

He should never have been at dummy half in the late stages though.

Spot on with the first paragraph.

partly agree with the 2nd, think he simply wanted to try and inject some speed into our plays as Berrigan looked shattered and most of our players were out on their feet.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:29 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

Spot on with the first paragraph.

partly agree with the 2nd, think he simply wanted to try and inject some speed into our plays as Berrigan looked shattered and most of our players were out on their feet.

Oh I understand why he wanted to be there. IMO it showed the enthusiasm and desire to help/impress that so many are ridiculously saying is absent. He just shouldn't have been there because he doesn't have the game to deliver from there, it should have been one of our playmakers. Unfortunately, they were decidedly absent, as they had been all game (R Horne apart).

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:31 am  

carl_spackler wrote:

Oh I understand why he wanted to be there. IMO it showed the enthusiasm and desire to help/impress that so many are ridiculously saying is absent. He just shouldn't have been there because he doesn't have the game to deliver from there, it should have been one of our playmakers. Unfortunately, they were decidedly absent, as they had been all game (R Horne apart).

As ive said elsewhere, it doesnt help when Thorman has to make most of our tackles as Manu is woeful in defence. I bet Manu missed over 10 tackles on Friday and left Thorman 1 on 1 defensively.

Re: Calderwood... : Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:36 am  

Bigcook wrote:

:lol: you didnt want Dobbo did you , Bitter Dullers

Fool

Try reading the post.

Player leave clubs for a whole host of reasons,

Clash of personalities (Calderwood / Noble)

Unrealistic wage demands (Dobson / Wigan board) Until someone was stupid enough to bow down to them

Just being substandard - Colburn

As a matter of interest, what have I got to be bitter about? Quite frankly, I am delighted I am not a hkr fan. I would hate to be labelled as an intimidating thug, as has been reported in the RL press

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:39 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

As ive said elsewhere, it doesnt help when Thorman has to make most of our tackles as Manu is woeful in defence. I bet Manu missed over 10 tackles on Friday and left Thorman 1 on 1 defensively.

I didn't think he was that bad TBH, certainly nowhere near 10. A big bloke playing as many minutes as he currently is is bound to miss a few though as they get tired, another sign to me that we have been asking too much of certain forwards and simply getting away with it so far. IMO Manu got through the most work with ball in hand out of our entire pack, there always has to be a trade off when it's like that.

Speaking of Thorman, I thought he was monumentally shyt on Friday, first 5 minutes apart.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:40 am  

carl_spackler wrote:

I didn't think he was that bad TBH, certainly nowhere near 10. A big bloke playing as many minutes as he currently is is bound to miss a few though as they get tired, another sign to me that we have been asking too much of certain forwards and simply getting away with it so far. IMO Manu got through the most work with ball in hand out of our entire pack, there always has to be a trade off when it's like that.

Speaking of Thorman, I thought he was monumentally poop on Friday, first 5 minutes apart.

Would love to see it again, guess i'll have to wait for the stats to come out!! Manu needs to stop grabbing and put his shoulder in for me.

Dont think Thorman was that bad to be honest, no worse than anyone else anyway.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:44 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

Would love to see it again, guess i'll have to wait for the stats to come out!! Manu needs to stop grabbing and put his shoulder in for me.

Dont think Thorman was that bad to be honest, no worse than anyone else anyway.

Thorman played his normal game, I thnk the last few weeks have been the exception rather than the rule.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:47 am  

Standee wrote:

Thorman played his normal game, I thnk the last few weeks have been the exception rather than the rule.

grumpy Monday morning?

I'd say Friday was the exception and the previous few weeks were his normal game. guess we'll see on Saturday.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:49 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

:lol: grumpy Monday morning?

I'd say Friday was the exception and the previous few weeks were his normal game. guess we'll see on Saturday.

Not at all, watched him play for Huddersfield for long enough, Horne was left to do a load of work on Friday night.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:52 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

Would love to see it again, guess i'll have to wait for the stats to come out!! Manu needs to stop grabbing and put his shoulder in for me.

Same can be said for Tickle. Coincidence that they get less of a rest than Radford?

Big Dave T wrote:

Dont think Thorman was that bad to be honest, no worse than anyone else anyway.

He was particularly poor IMO. His kicking was mediocre, he created little, and considering how much has been made by the club about his organisational ability and how vocal he is we were a shambles for much of the match.

Castleford were always going to score a few points against us with their attacking ability, it was our attacking play that let us down IMO.