: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:42 am  

Standee wrote:

So, neither the club, nor the RFL have done anything to try and sort this out. Sounds about right.

Alarming isn't it!

There are two basic ways in conducting your business:

1.) Be proactive, get out there and bring the business in, do "everything" you can to ensure the stability and sustainability of your company - seek advice and assistance from those that can help.

2.) Sit back and wait and see what happens!

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:48 am  

Standee wrote:

This is NOTHING to do with the club.

So the HDM as gone to the Sports Minister?

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:52 am  

Digby wrote:

Alarming isn't it!

There are two basic ways in conducting your business:

1.) Be proactive, get out there and bring the business in, do "everything" you can to ensure the stability and sustainability of your company - seek advice and assistance from those that can help.

2.) Sit back and wait and see what happens!

I don't think Hull have sat back whatsosver, the second time around I reckon just about everything has been done to try and obtain a spoitive result. Not sure if this would help tbh and was not maybe the main priority for Hull and Crocker?

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:57 am  

I would have thought the RFL would have been involved with the sports minister in generic discussions regarding the recent visa issues for players across several clubs. I'm surprised this appears not to have been the case from the article. As for Hull contacting him specifically about Mick Crocker maybe we should have been more proactive (especially application no.2) although it's a fine line between doing all you can and potentially scuppering any decision if the authorities deem that the club is meddling in the due process.

[Kosh]

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:06 am  

Standee wrote:

So, neither the club, nor the RFL have done anything to try and sort this out. Sounds about right.

Actually, the article only indicates that neither have been in touch with Sutcliffe. Since he points out that this is not under his control anyway, that hard counts as not doing anything.

The RFL and the clubs have been in touch with the Home Office/UKBA/Immigration Department - the folk who actually control what happens.

Having the Sports Minister on side can't hurt, but I doubt it will prove crucial. I also have to question just how effective this guy is if he is genuinely unaware of the issue.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:08 am  

PAUL M wrote:

I don't think Hull have sat back whatsosver, the second time around I reckon just about everything has been done to try and obtain a spoitive result. Not sure if this would help tbh and was not maybe the main priority for Hull and Crocker?

Have to disagree Paul, i'm sure they have submitted a comprehensive application but clearly they havn't sought advice/assistance that is avaialble to strengthen the application.

The signing of Crocker was massive, an internationally renowned player who would bring progression to the clud in all facets of our club. This minister has obviously spoken up as he could potentially benefit the application, if that is the case, it should have been explored.

I'm not intentionally trying to be negative, i'm grateful that the club are out their recuriting players of the Berrigan/Crocker ilk, but clearly, more could of been done to speed up this farcical application.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:10 am  

Crocker was mentioned on the Footy Show last night, and it was said he would find out the decision in the next fortnight. So really its like how long is a piece of string isn't it?!
You know the old saying of 'Its not what you know but who you know' ? I don't see any harm at all in the club contacting the Minister.

[Kosh]

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:12 am  

Digby wrote:

Have to disagree Paul, i'm sure they have submitted a comprehensive application but clearly they havn't sought advice/assistance that is avaialble to strengthen the application.

The signing of Crocker was massive, an internationally renowned player who would bring progression to the clud in all facets of our club. This minister has obviously spoken up as he could potentially benefit the application, if that is the case, it should have been explored.

I'm not intentionally trying to be negative, i'm grateful that the club are out their recuriting players of the Berrigan/Crocker ilk, but clearly, more could of been done to speed up this farcical application.

This minister hasn't 'spoken up' at all. He's been contacted by the HDM and provided the usual meaningless media statement.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:27 am  

Kosh wrote:

This minister hasn't 'spoken up' at all. He's been contacted by the HDM and provided the usual meaningless media statement.

I dont (personally) think it's "meaningless" when he has stipulated the "support" he has offered other sporting clubs in their overseas recruitment.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:28 am  

The Kings of Hull wrote:

So the HDM as gone to the Sports Minister?

Yes:

"Speaking to the Mail, Mr Sutcliffe said he had not been made aware of the problem, which has seen a number of clubs miss out on key signings due to tightening up of immigration rules.

"I am happy for the club if they want to get in touch with me to do so and I will speak to the relevant Minister" he said"

maybe you should take your head out of your booty and read the article instead of jumping straight to the clubs defence all the time. (just an idea)