: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:43 pm  

BlackNwhite wrote:

If we tried to play expansive rugby last night and dropped ball after ball the same people would be here moaning that they shouldnt throw the ball about and should respect posession. There is a fine line

I agree, it's tough. However, a seemingly 3 pass maximum for any given tackle is nowhere near even approaching it.

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:48 pm  

A unknown superstar wrote:

Another thing that p!sses me off is that when defending, our line move up about 2 metres then stop and wait for them. Whereas Leeds and Saints have a rush defence, which works a treat.

What hacks me off more is that for the first few games we moved up quickly and effectively. Last night in particular we looked as if we couldn't be bothered to.

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:50 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

What hacks me off more is that for the first few games we moved up quickly and effectively. Last night in particular we looked as if we couldn't be bothered to.

gotta agree our defensive line was like a dogs hind leg.

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:22 pm  

Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.

Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.

We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:21 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.

Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.

We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving

Got to agree about PTB, why are we so slow?we'll never get a penalty for 'lying on' we seem to be happy to get up slowly, and when we're near oppositions line i'm not as confident about us scoring, yet when the opposition are nr our line i always feel they'll score.

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:25 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.

Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.

We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving

It's hard to disagree with any of that really.

[Kosh]

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:06 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.

Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.

We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving

Hard to disagree with any of that TBH.

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:09 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Hard to disagree with any of that TBH.

Can you somehow post it to our coaching staff,?

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:43 am  

I think we have made a great start to the season so don't want to be to critical, but do agree that things have slipped in the last two games.

What surprises me is that people are shocked that we look like the same team that was coached by Sharp, what people have to remember is Sharp was probably calling the shots but Agar will have done a lot of the day to day coaching. So no wonder much hasn't changed.

IMO the only short term solution is probably for agar to allow more input from J Sharp.

By the way I am not calling for Agar to go, but he needs to look to a more expansive game we are way too predictable.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:58 am  

FCFaithful Stu wrote:

I think we have made a great start to the season so don't want to be to critical, but do agree that things have slipped in the last two games.

What surprises me is that people are shocked that we look like the same team that was coached by Sharp, what people have to remember is Sharp was probably calling the shots but Agar will have done a lot of the day to day coaching. So no wonder much hasn't changed.

IMO the only short term solution is probably for agar to allow more input from J Sharp.

By the way I am not calling for Agar to go, but he needs to look to a more expansive game we are way too predictable.

Did I just see "Jon Sharp" and "expansive game" in the same sentence.

There is no surprse that Hudderfield are playing good rugby, they now have a cracking coach.