Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:51 am  

Dave K. wrote:

When does pre season start? Wonder if Walker will still be with us? Be good to have him for a year, give us some good options in the backs and give Moy a year to develop.

Starts Tuesday (I think)

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:35 am  

Looks like Kye Armstrong has gone after his insta post yesterday.

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:12 am  

mwindass wrote:

Starts Tuesday (I think)

Yes November 5th, could be fireworks if certain players turn up overweight.

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:21 am  

mwindass wrote:

Starts Tuesday (I think)

Hope we don’t have to tolerate the usual pre-season player nonsense interviews this year, with Jordan Lane telling us on Tuesday that, ‘the players know what they have to do’ and Fash telling us on Wednesday that ‘he’s never been fitter’.

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:24 am  

Armstrong was going to be the next big thing wasn't he? International captain at his age group, courted by the aussies.

Not ever player will make it but why do so many more make it at wigan than us?

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:32 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Armstrong was going to be the next big thing wasn't he? International captain at his age group, courted by the aussies.

Not ever player will make it but why do so many more make it at wigan than us?

There's always loads like at Wigan too, but Wigan are the kings of youth though.

Hopefully we have turned the corner and we can emulate what Saints, Wigan and Leeds do on a regular basis.

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:31 am  

Couple of injuries and never kicked on by sounds of it. Interesting to see where he ends up, Midlands or Goole I imagine.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:36 am  

Jake the Peg wrote: Armstrong was going to be the next big thing wasn't he? International captain at his age group, courted by the aussies. Not ever player will make it but why do so many more make it at wigan than us? Youth age-group success is not that a great indicator of who’ll make it in SL. Even at Wigan a high proportion don’t make it. Here are the youth England squads from 2015, as an example. It’s the same story every year though. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/en ... d-for-2015 Questioning youth development systems… well, it’s an emotive subject and a lot of fans have sunk a lot of hope into, and are generally pretty to reluctant to write off that investment. It’s bound to come good eventually - it stands to reason, surely.

Jake the Peg wrote: Armstrong was going to be the next big thing wasn't he? International captain at his age group, courted by the aussies. Not ever player will make it but why do so many more make it at wigan than us? Youth age-group success is not that a great indicator of who’ll make it in SL. Even at Wigan a high proportion don’t make it. Here are the youth England squads from 2015, as an example. It’s the same story every year though. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/en ... d-for-2015 Questioning youth development systems… well, it’s an emotive subject and a lot of fans have sunk a lot of hope into, and are generally pretty to reluctant to write off that investment. It’s bound to come good eventually - it stands to reason, surely.

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:21 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Armstrong was going to be the next big thing wasn't he? International captain at his age group, courted by the aussies.

Not ever player will make it but why do so many more make it at wigan than us?

Its why i said the idea the club seem to be bankling on of having five or six of the clubs younger players ready to take over as regular first team players in two or three years time is flawed.
cant see anything exciting from the forwards we have seen and its too early to make a decision on Moy or Charles although out of the two then probably Moy is ahead in potential
The two wings look to be able to progress as regular S/L players but whilst its important to have a youth set up it will never be a conveyor belt to produce a team of home grown talent

Re: Pre Season - 2025 : Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:10 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

So by my reckoning we have gone from a backroom staff of
Smith, Gene, Grix
Unqualified S&C and trainee Physios

to

Cartwright, Grix, Last and Ellis
Highly experienced Physio and another one advertised
New S&C coach and Jon Clarke as a consultant.

Definitely a huge improvement and shows the money saved the last couple of year under Pearson.

Got to be either Covid loans paid off or investment coming in

A massive improvement but amazed Grix is still there.This is his 2nd and last year so hope it’s not re-newer as just doesn’t do it for me.