Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:44 pm  

The games afoot wrote:

I was at the match last night and Wigan are even more impressive in the flesh…they line up so deep for attacks it’s just unreal..as for French,that was worth my ticket money alone.Everyone around me was saying that Thompson was mom until he went off then Nesemba just went up another level and got mom on the ground.Afterwards I was in a pub in Wigan with the people I’d gone with and got chatting to 3 Leigh fans and the all had different opinions on the players we have got from them.Was all united in saying Asiata is a superb signing and will do a job,2 didn’t rate Hardacker but 1 did..said Chamberlains a squad player,Holmes can’t string 2 games together but the 1 all 3 called was Briscoe….Was good to get a opinion it them

French is a fantastic player but that move for his try he has done several times before.
Leigh fans are good and usually have no axe to grind about players leaving.
Asiata apart it shows what a load of crap we have signed from Leigh.
Chamberlain on a 3 year contract is a joke

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:40 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Penrith are a juggernaut, greatest club team ever.
I'd take any of their 17.

This is one of those subjective questions with no real answer as we can't pit sides from the past against teams from the present, but it's a discussion we all love to have.

I would pick out three outstanding club sides from the past forty or so years:
Parramatta 1981-83, Wigan 1990-94, Penrith 2021-24.

Each of them were dominant, each were packed full of superstar players, each set a benchmark for others to follow.
Wigan's achievements were slightly skewed due to having a massive financial advantage over everyone which allowed them to cherry pick everyone else's best players thereby weakening their main opposition, but they unquestionably contained some of the finest players of the early nineties.

The great Parramatta side (the only other team apart from Penrith to complete a hat-trick of NSW/NRL victories since the late sixties) came about due to a freakish collection of young players all coming through together (Ella, Grothe, Kenny, Sterling). The bizarre thing about them was that, apart from this period (roughly 76-86 in total), Parramatta have effectively amounted to very little throughout the rest of their history, generally being no more than bit-part players in most seasons.

One of the commentators, at the end of today's game, said that winning four in a row shouldn't be possible in the modern day salary cap sport. Players are also more inclined to switch clubs than they were in years gone by.
Given the context, circumstances and standards of today's NRL, I think today's historic win does probably make Penrith the greatest RL club side of the past fifty years.
Any comparisons with a team pre-1970 (possibly even pre-1980) is largely fatuous as we really are talking about a wholly different sport, certainly a more brutal one!! Teams from the 1960s would have had their own special ways of dealing with someone like Nathan Cleary!!

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:25 pm  

BP1 wrote:

Teams from the 1960s would have had their own special ways of dealing with someone like Nathan Cleary!!

That's if their beer-bellies could get anywhere near to 'dealing' with him.
Glad you partially agree.

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:25 pm  

Didn’t take long for 1 of the resident moaners to quote me about what the Leigh fans told me about the lads from leigh….I’ve got Bonend on ignore but I do wish he would just pi££ off and take peg-end with him

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:09 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Imagine how good Penrith would be if they had been able to keep all their players (Crichton, Burton, etc.).

Amazing success in a salary cap era.

I was at the match last night and they are a superb team. Have been a season ticket holder at Penrith since joining their Leagues Club in 2000 when I departed our house near Cronulla and took up residence in the Blue Mountains.

With the loss this season of Crichton and Leniu I thought they could not win this year and actually tipped the Storm to beat them on another RL forum. The last team to beat them in a GF was Melbourne back in 2020 so this was sweet revenge!
They have lost another 3 influential players for next season.

I have recently moved again to the Mid- North coast so have given up my season ticket but will continue to go to all future GF's.

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:33 pm  

BP1 wrote:

Wigan's achievements were slightly skewed due to having a massive financial advantage over everyone which allowed them to cherry pick everyone else's best players thereby weakening their main opposition, but they unquestionably contained some of the finest players of the early nineties.

Not sure where this financial advantage comes from? It was a case of speculate to accumulate, everyone could have done what we did, but we were the only club with the bottle to do it.

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:35 pm  

Shame non of the Championship semi's are been shown on tv this weekend .

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:38 pm  

hatty wrote:

Not sure where this financial advantage comes from? It was a case of speculate to accumulate, everyone could have done what we did, but we were the only club with the bottle to do it.

I have a suspicion that some clubs didn't lack bottle but money.
It's all a bit before my time though.

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:15 pm  

hatty wrote:

Not sure where this financial advantage comes from? It was a case of speculate to accumulate, everyone could have done what we did, but we were the only club with the bottle to do it.

Erm no, Maurice Lyndsey had the cash and he splashed it. Same as FC in the late 70’s early 80’s. We signed players to stop other teams getting them.

Re: TV Games - Not Hull : Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:27 am  

A lot of clubs tried and failed trying to keep up with Wigan at the time and paid the price down the line .