Re: SL 2021 predictions : Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:33 am  

...... just a snip .....

It concluded that the sport delivers an annual social impact worth more than £185million to the country, with every £1 spent by Community Clubs and Foundations generating a social return of £4.08. This is in addition to the annual economic impact of the sport of over £141m.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:04 am  

Wigan
Saints
Warrington
Leeds
Hull FC
Huddersfield
Castleford
Rovers
Catalans
Salford
Leigh
Wakefield

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:09 pm  

ccs wrote: ...... just a snip ..... Doesn't seem a lot given the community impact both at pro level and lower down the ranks. http://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_docs ... 202020.pdf They only chose two SL clubs and five community clubs and then extrapolated. They've (the authors) said timescales limit being able to be more accurate but admitted that the RFL had lots of data on all clubs for them to start with so it might have been somewhat more accurate using more SL clubs, championship clubs as well as community clubs. I wonder if clubs like Wakey and Castleford have greater socio/economic impact for their relative size than say we or Warrington might have? there's no soccer in the area (which draws money away from RL and of course other sports) and these two clubs plus say Featherstone do produce a lot of players/participation relative to their population. Health benefits in lower income/poor health areas from sport have a bigger positive impact than in those areas where wealth and general health is higher/better. I would have, as I said, liked to have seen how clubs in some of the lowest income areas of the country made an impact on the outcome of the cost to benefit ratio. Consider that HS2 has a CBR likely to be lower than 1.5, Spending over £60bn (National Audit office expect in excess of the £56bn budget to occur) to garner a somewhat sceptical £92bn in benefits including the wider reaching benefits So over 4 is impressive and the RFL could push for more funding from government/sport England on that basis given the returns to the communities and country as a whole. "Eventually, the economic impact of the two professional clubs (professional + foundation) is around £6.7m each. Extrapolation for professional clubs There are 34 English professional clubs: 11 in Super League (the 12th club Catalans Dragons being French), 12 in Championship (the 13th and 14th clubs being non-English with Toronto Wolfpack being Canadian and Toulouse Olympique being French) and 11 in League 1. The economic impact of the professional part in the English professional clubs is extrapolated at round £71m. The economic impact of their foundations is extrapolated at around £10.5m.Eventually, the economic impact of the English professional clubs (professional + foundation) is extrapolated at around £81.5m" Interesting that the economic importance of the two SL clubs chosen shows that Hull FC have 17 staff and Warrington have 141, presuming our deficit is due to staff not directly employed due to our stadium arrangements.

ccs wrote: ...... just a snip ..... Doesn't seem a lot given the community impact both at pro level and lower down the ranks. http://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_docs ... 202020.pdf They only chose two SL clubs and five community clubs and then extrapolated. They've (the authors) said timescales limit being able to be more accurate but admitted that the RFL had lots of data on all clubs for them to start with so it might have been somewhat more accurate using more SL clubs, championship clubs as well as community clubs. I wonder if clubs like Wakey and Castleford have greater socio/economic impact for their relative size than say we or Warrington might have? there's no soccer in the area (which draws money away from RL and of course other sports) and these two clubs plus say Featherstone do produce a lot of players/participation relative to their population. Health benefits in lower income/poor health areas from sport have a bigger positive impact than in those areas where wealth and general health is higher/better. I would have, as I said, liked to have seen how clubs in some of the lowest income areas of the country made an impact on the outcome of the cost to benefit ratio. Consider that HS2 has a CBR likely to be lower than 1.5, Spending over £60bn (National Audit office expect in excess of the £56bn budget to occur) to garner a somewhat sceptical £92bn in benefits including the wider reaching benefits So over 4 is impressive and the RFL could push for more funding from government/sport England on that basis given the returns to the communities and country as a whole. "Eventually, the economic impact of the two professional clubs (professional + foundation) is around £6.7m each. Extrapolation for professional clubs There are 34 English professional clubs: 11 in Super League (the 12th club Catalans Dragons being French), 12 in Championship (the 13th and 14th clubs being non-English with Toronto Wolfpack being Canadian and Toulouse Olympique being French) and 11 in League 1. The economic impact of the professional part in the English professional clubs is extrapolated at round £71m. The economic impact of their foundations is extrapolated at around £10.5m.Eventually, the economic impact of the English professional clubs (professional + foundation) is extrapolated at around £81.5m" Interesting that the economic importance of the two SL clubs chosen shows that Hull FC have 17 staff and Warrington have 141, presuming our deficit is due to staff not directly employed due to our stadium arrangements.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:24 pm  

Offy1865 wrote:

Wigan
Saints
Warrington
Leeds
Hull FC
Huddersfield
Castleford
Rovers
Catalans
Salford
Leigh
Wakefield

Your selections made me wonder how the inclusion of Inglis will influence how people think regards warrington's chances, it could be their year ... famous last words!

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:34 am  

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/super-le ... ion-36238/ I don't know who Trev Smith is, but maybe a Wakey fan.

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/super-le ... ion-36238/ I don't know who Trev Smith is, but maybe a Wakey fan.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:01 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/super-league-2021-league-table-prediction-36238/

I don't know who Trev Smith is, but maybe a Wakey fan.

Or Salford, think both Hudds, Cas and Rovers will do better than those predictions.

I'd be pretty happy with 4th.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:31 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Or Salford, think both Hudds, Cas and Rovers will do better than those predictions.

I'd be pretty happy with 4th.

Rovers first 17 has improved over last season but if they get any injuries they'll be screwed as they have no depth at all

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:53 pm  

Sebasteeno wrote:

Rovers first 17 has improved over last season but if they get any injuries they'll be screwed as they have no depth at all

Doesn't it give opportunities for their youngsters to step up and get game time though. Whilst they might not get results if they have injuries/suspensions, does not the longer term benefits of youngsters getting valuable top level playing time benefit?
There's also I think, no relegation this season, so might as well blood youngsters instead of playing partially fit 1st XVII that ends up with longer term injury issues.

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:27 pm  

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:

Doesn't it give opportunities for their youngsters to step up and get game time though. Whilst they might not get results if they have injuries/suspensions, does not the longer term benefits of youngsters getting valuable top level playing time benefit?
There's also I think, no relegation this season, so might as well blood youngsters instead of playing partially fit 1st XVII that ends up with longer term injury issues.

Don't recall seeing confirmation of no relegation?

Re: SL 2021 predictions : Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:20 am  

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote: There's also I think, no relegation this season, so might as well blood youngsters instead of playing partially fit 1st XVII that ends up with longer term injury issues. https://www.totalrl.com/elstone-confirm ... -for-2021/ May be changed - who knows?

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote: There's also I think, no relegation this season, so might as well blood youngsters instead of playing partially fit 1st XVII that ends up with longer term injury issues. https://www.totalrl.com/elstone-confirm ... -for-2021/ May be changed - who knows?