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Re: Genuine question. : Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:18 pm  
Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet.

Here's the link if anyone's interested

https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/
Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet.

Here's the link if anyone's interested

https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:21 am  
The very fact Murphy's team (and probably all NRL teams) have a multi million traing and rehab facility separate to the stadium, with teams who have attended the Australia Institute of Sport shows why it is different.

We have one of the best backroom staff we've ever had, and it's still 1 guy working in a very small gym.
I'm impressed with what we are doing, especially with nutrition side, but we are still light years behind in my opinion.
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:44 am  
I was on about this with a mate the other day. Take Herbie Farnworth, top 3 centre in the world, went to Brisbane at about 16, Would he be the same player now if he came through Wigan, I don’t reckon so. Has anyone seen South Sydney’s new training facilities, it would match a premier league club. Sports science facilities and I reckon climate make a massive difference not taking into account the NRL is a Billion pound organisation. It’s like comparing the premier league to the Scottish premier league in my opinion.
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:43 am  
There is no gulf in the knowledge and at most clubs there is no gulf in the facilities.
The gulf lays in the number of quality athletes that enter the system.
In Australia they have many more times the number of quality athletes available due to the prominence and attraction of the NRL. They are at the head of the line when kids decide which sport they want to play and which sportsmen they wish to emulate. The base of their talent pyramid is much wider than ours, it’s almost as simple as that!
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:47 am  
imwakefieldtillidie wrote:
Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet.

Here's the link if anyone's interested

https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/


Understanding maturation rates has been a consideration over here for many years.
The problem in Rugby League is with the intelligence of some coaches who refuse to change or recognise maturation rates as an issue and adapt accordingly.
Edit: I think I must point out that I’m talking about the coach not the S&C coaches who are generally much better educated about such things as maturation rates but don’t always have a say.
imwakefieldtillidie wrote:
Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet.

Here's the link if anyone's interested

https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/


Understanding maturation rates has been a consideration over here for many years.
The problem in Rugby League is with the intelligence of some coaches who refuse to change or recognise maturation rates as an issue and adapt accordingly.
Edit: I think I must point out that I’m talking about the coach not the S&C coaches who are generally much better educated about such things as maturation rates but don’t always have a say.
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:01 am  
The Avenger wrote:
There is no gulf in the knowledge and at most clubs there is no gulf in the facilities.
The gulf lays in the number of quality athletes that enter the system.
In Australia they have many more times the number of quality athletes available due to the prominence and attraction of the NRL. They are at the head of the line when kids decide which sport they want to play and which sportsmen they wish to emulate. The base of their talent pyramid is much wider than ours, it’s almost as simple as that!


I agree with your point about number of players but you could not be more wrong about knowledge and facilities.

Pick any NRL club at random and Google their training facilities.
Then look at ours. Or even the rugby clubs playing out of football stadiums.
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:15 am  
Has anyone seen the short series of videos following Penrith Panthers in pre season, I think it was called Preparing The Panthers.

Quite a good watch
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:53 am  
Has anyone seen the short series of videos following Penrith Panthers in pre season, I think it was called Preparing The Panthers.

Quite a good watch
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:29 pm  
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it is 100% down to coaching and the ethos of the importance of sport as a whole in Australia, which just doesn’t have the same emphasis here in the UK :thumb:
Re: Genuine question. : Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:31 pm  
I think competitiveness within environments is also a factor. More talent pool, more doing the little 1% to get in front of the man in front of you. Over here we do not have the luxury of that. Also more money for facilities over there.

Can I just say Josh Griffin is a class act and if we manage to keep him fit has at least another couple of years in him when we get back to super league. Exceptional athlete, good rugby IQ and athlete as mentioned.
Was delighted when we signed him from Hull as he was arguably their best player for his ban.
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