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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:07 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

I think there will be one spot for grabs in 2025 with London. It will be between us, Toulouse and bulls for it. Adding the LED boards before the scores and performing well on the pitch should see us claim that spot.

Why are you not putting Cas or Salford in that?

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:10 pm  

I'm confident we will grade higher than at least 2 current SL teams.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:47 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I assume you mean maximum points on the stadium section?
That would actually mean your average crowd is also your capacity.

More likely they mean they get maximum on the facilities part of that section which gets you an extra point if you do.

Correct, I should have made that clearer.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:55 pm  

If Cas finish 11th this year, their league points will drop by 0.15 points.

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:46 am  

dboy wrote:

If Cas finish 11th this year, their league points will drop by 0.15 points.

That's not quite correct.
The way it's worked out you can only drop in multiples of 0.11.
And it depends what other teams around them do as it's an average over 3 years.
But from my calculations they'll actually lose 0.22 points assuming both Leigh and Hull finish higher than them.

They would have 2.89 points for league position if they finish 11th.
They had 3.11 last time.

If we win GF we'd end up with 2.67 points (assuming London don't finish higher than 12th.
But if we do win GF and 1895 we'd have an extra bonus on 0.35 taking us to 3.02.......0.13 higher than Cas.

Fine margins.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:21 am  

They'd go from a 7th, 7th, 11th average, to a 7th, 11th, 11th average.

2021 7 3.3333
2022 7 3.3333
2023 11 2.8889 3.1852 3-year ave
2024 11 2.8889 3.0370 3-year ave
0.1481 drop

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:58 am  

dboy wrote:

They'd go from a 7th, 7th, 11th average, to a 7th, 11th, 11th average.

2021 7 3.3333
2022 7 3.3333
2023 11 2.8889 3.1852 3-year ave
2024 11 2.8889 3.0370 3-year ave
0.1481 drop

I agree. But that isn't the end of the calculation.

Once that is done, the teams are reordered into a league table and given a new score.
So last time 3.1852 put them in 9th so were allocated 3.11, with Hull and Leigh below them.

This year Leigh will be much higher and Hull I think will just scrape above over the average, putting Cas in 11th.
So the actual points for the IMG score drops 0.22

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:06 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I agree. But that isn't the end of the calculation.

Once that is done, the teams are reordered into a league table and given a new score.
So last time 3.1852 put them in 9th so were allocated 3.11, with Hull and Leigh below them.

This year Leigh will be much higher and Hull I think will just scrape above over the average, putting Cas in 11th.
So the actual points for the IMG score drops 0.22

IMG seem to have brought in an environment where clubs are making strides both on and off the pitch, which is clearly a good thing but, the fine margins as to whether a club is in or out of SL next season is getting quite ridiculous and it's not "sport" anymore.

The sooner that we can achieve a grade A the better.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:18 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The sooner that we can achieve a grade A the better.

.... and maintain.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:35 pm  

0.22 is bigger than 0.15.

Are you are saying that 7/11/11 averages as 9.666, and it's that calculation that is re-ranked and then attributed the performance score?

In that scenario, we would be 10/12/13 = 11.666, so you are looking at whether another club could/would drop in between and change the 3 year rankings?