Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:58 pm  

Luppylad wrote:

Be mad if we keep green rather see essah play

Agree. Think we need two props one hopefully being Andrew Fifita and hopefully a young up and coming

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:06 pm  

AMI wrote:

Agree. Think we need two props one hopefully being Andrew Fifita and hopefully a young up and coming

I believe the Fifta deal is not dead in the water yet, but I have no solid evidence on that.

Can you imagine how the competition from his twin who's always overshadowed him will spur Dave on? If It did that would be a dynamite front row

Dave Fifita
Andrew Fifita
Eddie Battye (who can play a bit)
Aydin (a real find IMO)
Arona (great cover)
Eseh (Who could be ready come next year)
Tanginoa (in case of emergency)

Not bad and some real aggression.

I'd be happy with that.

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:11 pm  

AMI wrote:

I don't think you prove yourself in a position over a handful of games. As I say I think Kay has done well but a hooker needs to do much more than run from acting half, they need to be able to do a lot of tackling and act as a play maker as well as providing quality quick ball. I personally wouldnt want us to go in to a new season with only one recognised hooker, unless Willie feels that Harry Bowes is ready to do the job.

Agree with u AMI, Kaye has only proved he can fill in as a temporary hooker
He’s good at running fast from acting half back no doubt
But isnt particular good at any of the other finer points required to be a starting hooker, the main one being distribution
Also playing a handful of matches in the middle and doing a full season there are two different asks entirely, he’s not built to do that

Hes spent the last ten years as a winger So it’s not a surprise really that’s where he is best suited
Kaye at hooker……. Not for me

I think he’ll continue to be a winger once hood comes in

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:33 pm  

musson wrote:

Agree with u AMI, Kaye has only proved he can fill in as a temporary hooker
He’s good at running fast from acting half back no doubt
But isnt particular good at any of the other finer points required to be a starting hooker, the main one being distribution
Also playing a handful of matches in the middle and doing a full season there are two different asks entirely, he’s not built to do that

Hes spent the last ten years as a winger So it’s not a surprise really that’s where he is best suited
Kaye at hooker……. Not for me

I think he’ll continue to be a winger once hood comes in

He is going for the hooker spot next year and i think he as been the best out of the 5 we have tried they all season

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:39 pm  

alegend wrote:

He is going for the hooker spot next year and i think he as been the best out of the 5 we have tried they all season

Personally, I'd be more than happy to see him playing at hooker next season as I think he's been a revelation there.
If he's said that's where he wants to play then he has the off season to concentrate on refining his skillset to allow him to be even more effective there. Liam Hood coming in puts pressure on him but that could be good for him too. Having to compete with a decent quality hooker for the spot can only push him to improve.

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:45 pm  

It's all about opinions.

So let's all agree he's a very handy player to have around. I believe in an emergency he can also play SH and even FB but I wouldn't want to push it.

I've said it before but I'll say it again, the day of the specialist player is disappearing and the universal soldier is here. Soon IMO it will be down to three main food groups. Runners, Wing and centre, Pivots, FB, Hooker, H/B's and perhaps LF and then the yardage makers, Props and Back rowers and all will be interchangeable within those groups.

This I believe is down to economics, lack of players and seemingly ever more injuries combined with a correct unwillingness to play injured players. I see squads dropping to as small as 26 plus Academy, allowing a smaller number of players to remain relatively well paid.

Might be wrong, just a thought.

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:18 pm  

vastman wrote:

I believe the Fifta deal is not dead in the water yet, but I have no solid evidence on that.

Can you imagine how the competition from his twin who's always overshadowed him will spur Dave on? If It did that would be a dynamite front row

Dave Fifita
Andrew Fifita
Eddie Battye (who can play a bit)
Aydin (a real find IMO)
Arona (great cover)
Eseh (Who could be ready come next year)
Tanginoa (in case of emergency)

Not bad and some real aggression.

I'd be happy with that.

Think Aydin has got a massive future ahead of him. His footwork is excellent, a few times against Hull the big Polynesian forwards were racing off the line to put shots on, Aydin just slipped through them and made 10/15 metres comfortably. Be really good to see him possibly cement a starting 17 next year in the front row. In regards to A. Fifita, be interesting to see if we could get him over.

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:25 pm  

musson wrote:

Agree with u AMI, Kaye has only proved he can fill in as a temporary hooker
He’s good at running fast from acting half back no doubt
But isnt particular good at any of the other finer points required to be a starting hooker, the main one being distribution
Also playing a handful of matches in the middle and doing a full season there are two different asks entirely, he’s not built to do that

Hes spent the last ten years as a winger So it’s not a surprise really that’s where he is best suited
Kaye at hooker……. Not for me

I think he’ll continue to be a winger once hood comes in

Some people forget how specialised the hooker postion is yes kay may be ok at running now and again but its also about speed and timing of passing decision making and tackeling if you look at your best hookers roby,mcshane,clark ,c smith ,cook and so on ate all nautraul hookers yes kay has done well over last few weeks and not knocking him but still not as good as wood who seems likley to be playing in championship next season. And its said he was a hb so should be able to cover hooker but he as never really played professional rugby at hb just junior doesnt that say something.reckon hood will play big mins too.

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Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:30 pm  

I don't understand why people make judgements based on a starting 13. It's a squad game and we need multiple players for each position.

For me Kay is an interchange Hooker. Hood will be the starting Hooker.
He'll be an excellent bench player as he can cover multiple positions.

Woods is a great tackler but doesn't have confidence to run a game and his passing is only just ok.

It wouldn't surprise me if Kay has played more Hooker this year than Josh Woods.

Re: Re-cap : Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:03 pm  

vastman wrote:

I believe the Fifta deal is not dead in the water yet, but I have no solid evidence on that.

Can you imagine how the competition from his twin who's always overshadowed him will spur Dave on? If It did that would be a dynamite front row

Dave Fifita
Andrew Fifita
Eddie Battye (who can play a bit)
Aydin (a real find IMO)
Arona (great cover)
Eseh (Who could be ready come next year)
Tanginoa (in case of emergency)

Not bad and some real aggression.

I'd be happy with that.

Ive seen Eesh quite a bit and I believe he is nowhere ne'er first team rugby as a prop, he only really has size, and the academy teams he's done welll against have lack size, he's looked average against the larger packs.

On the size of the squad and from what I've heard, with 25 already signed I'd be very surprised To hear of more than 3 more signings