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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:20 am  
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It was a cracking win forthe academy yesterday and dont want to take anything awsy from the lads but it was expected cas did have a lot out like all the lads that played in sl 2 weeks ago plusa few others playing


I don't want to take anything away from the lads but I will. Classic! :lol:
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:45 am  
For me the crux of what’s been wrong over the last three seasons is our inability to do the full 80. It’s not losing, we expect that we know we are not the best. It’s our inability to win from a winning position, it’s the now dreaded half time team talk for me.

How many games have we lost the last few years from being ahead at half time or certainly well in the game. That’s the bit I can’t accept.

Even if you look at our four victories only the Hudds game could be called anything like a complete performance.

Wigan and lowly Leigh nearly came back to pinch it and even HKR dominated for the last 20 and were unlucky to go a man down.

This is the killer for me, it’s like a just enough mentality. No joy or desire to dominate or climb the table. Just enough to stay above Leigh, it’s pathetic at times, you can see the cue go on the rack.

I know in some games the effort has been there but the mental toughness isn’t and there seems to be an invisible trigger point where we decide we can’t win. That wasn’t the Trinity of a few years ago.

There is something wrong and it’s deeper than just not being able to afford the best, we’ve never been able to afford the best.

Put simply I. I longer think we are a team, the players don’t play for the coach, for each other or for the club and that will prove disastrous at some point. The last few years we’ve been lucky with London and Leigh and Toronto but that can’t last.

My theories may be wrong but like everyone else I believe something has to give.
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:09 am  
Willzay wrote:
Anyone else read the thread title in Samuel L Jackson’s voice?



I’ve HAD IT!

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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:22 am  
Really to echo most people’s opinions

I thought the Chester signing was crazy

He came to the end of his contract and could naturally move on while we brought in some one new
Would have made perfect sense

I’m finding for the first time in 30 years I’m not excited about the games, I’m not going to as many games and while I’d always listen on the radio I regularly turn off early
Also I don’t chat about Wakey to friends and family as much


It’s crazy as to a certain extent things are good for us
I think we had a stable talented side, minus a prop and a hooker how can we get better? Nothing wrong with the squad IMO
Have we ever had a better half’s pairing as an example?
More back room staff than ever
A great club owner
And could be finally at the point of a major stadium improvement

I can’t help but think replacing Chester would really get us going on the pitch

So so many fans wanted to see chester go his resigning as a bit of a slap in the face
It’s understandable that’s a lot of us feel so deflated
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:00 am  
Luppylad wrote:
It was a cracking win forthe academy yesterday and dont want to take anything awsy from the lads but it was expected cas did have a lot out like all the lads that played in sl 2 weeks ago plusa few others playing


You are brilliant.
Give it with one hand and take it away with the other.
Unbelievable.
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:31 am  
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For me the crux of what’s been wrong over the last three seasons is our inability to do the full 80. It’s not losing, we expect that we know we are not the best. It’s our inability to win from a winning position, it’s the now dreaded half time team talk for me.

How many games have we lost the last few years from being ahead at half time or certainly well in the game. That’s the bit I can’t accept.

Even if you look at our four victories only the Hudds game could be called anything like a complete performance.

Wigan and lowly Leigh nearly came back to pinch it and even HKR dominated for the last 20 and were unlucky to go a man down.

This is the killer for me, it’s like a just enough mentality. No joy or desire to dominate or climb the table. Just enough to stay above Leigh, it’s pathetic at times, you can see the cue go on the rack.

I know in some games the effort has been there but the mental toughness isn’t and there seems to be an invisible trigger point where we decide we can’t win. That wasn’t the Trinity of a few years ago.

There is something wrong and it’s deeper than just not being able to afford the best, we’ve never been able to afford the best.

Put simply I. I longer think we are a team, the players don’t play for the coach, for each other or for the club and that will prove disastrous at some point. The last few years we’ve been lucky with London and Leigh and Toronto but that can’t last.

My theories may be wrong but like everyone else I believe something has to give.

Agree completely. The only part i'd maybe take issue with is the bit i've highlighted. Even in that game we lost the second half 12-8!
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:57 pm  
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Agree completely. The only part i'd maybe take issue with is the bit i've highlighted. Even in that game we lost the second half 12-8!


I know but I wanted to recognize that for once we played the full 80 and I'll forgive the minor slip at the end. Whatever was agreed that day should be the norm, won't always get us the win but will get us more than we do at present.

The truth is with CC is that he may be a good coach but they all have a lifespan and for whatever reason, he seems to have reached his. If he does turn it around then great but there are few signs at present.
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:35 pm  
On listening to his after match interview I hope he was not suggesting that Batchelor’s is being moved to prop based on his ascertain that he plays better through the middle. It would not surprise me because on Friday we had a prop at loose forward, a second row at prop and a loose forward either in the second row or on the bench.
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:13 pm  
If Chester's team talks are as good as his interviews on Trinity TV then god help us. He'll look anywhere but the camera, he'll scratch his head his backside his chin, pull his zip up zip down hands in pockets then he sits on them. When the interview has finished your that busy watching his hands you've missed what he said. Good idea to let someone else give the team talk.
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Re: Enough is ENOUGH : Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:58 pm  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
On listening to his after match interview I hope he was not suggesting that Batchelor’s is being moved to prop based on his ascertain that he plays better through the middle. It would not surprise me because on Friday we had a prop at loose forward, a second row at prop and a loose forward either in the second row or on the bench.


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