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Re: NCA back in town Thu May 27, 2021 3:42 pm  
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The investigation finished months ago with no further action needed against either the Club or the Council because no wrong had been done. It was regurgitated by the tories in the local elections by a local racist and an ex director


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Re: NCA back in town Thu May 27, 2021 4:06 pm  

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We will see


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Re: NCA back in town Thu May 27, 2021 8:01 pm  

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REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:
We will see


The "news" article is from months ago!
Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 4:13 pm  
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The "news" article is from months ago!


As I pointed out if you read my post. Did you read the bit about the investigation into the council loan no you didn't I presume that's nothing to do with Manni it's the loan the club got.

In addition if you all think the NCA once the order is placed call it a draw because it was issued think again every transaction will be scrutinized that takes quite a while. If you think it's concluded go for it.
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Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 4:46 pm  

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Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 4:56 pm  

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That’s the way I read it that investigations are currently ongoing. There is to be investigations regarding the loan and I would also imagine all transactions and discussions around the assets will be investigated including all parties.
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Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 5:35 pm  

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As I pointed out if you read my post. Did you read the bit about the investigation into the council loan no you didn't I presume that's nothing to do with Manni it's the loan the club got.

In addition if you all think the NCA once the order is placed call it a draw because it was issued think again every transaction will be scrutinized that takes quite a while. If you think it's concluded go for it.


But it is concluded the case is closed. For reasons best known to yourself you’re trying to resurrect a dead story.

Also you and the article are well off the mark regarding the loan. Even if it were dodgy it wouldn’t be prosecuted by the NCA in this case. It would be a job for the local government ombudsman or whatever it’s called these days if your talking the mis-use of council funds.

The loan would only be of interest to the NCA if it had been used for criminal purposes ie money laundering. As the money was lent directly to the club and the sale was registered that is hugely unlikely.

The only issue regarding the council loan is the price we paid which was over market value. However as the loan is very much NOT interest free then there is no issue as regards the council The council are allowed to use council money by way of loans to local organisations if A. It has some value to the local community and B if they are getting a return ie interest which they are and by the way is a much higher return than if the council shoved it in a savings account.

Sorry but there is no issue other than WT had to pay over the odds to get the ground back but that was a commercial decision and one that in the long term will be worth it.

None story for me.
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Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 5:43 pm  
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vastman wrote:
But it is concluded the case is closed. For reasons best known to yourself you’re trying to resurrect a dead story.

Also you and the article are well off the mark regarding the loan. Even if it were dodgy it wouldn’t be prosecuted by the NCA in this case. It would be a job for the local government ombudsman or whatever it’s called these days if your talking the mis-use of council funds.

The loan would only be of interest to the NCA if it had been used for criminal purposes ie money laundering. As the money was lent directly to the club and the sale was registered that is hugely unlikely.

The only issue regarding the council loan is the price we paid which was over market value. However as the loan is very much NOT interest free then there is no issue as regards the council The council are allowed to use council money by way of loans to local organisations if A. It has some value to the local community and B if they are getting a return ie interest which they are and by the way is a much higher return than if the council shoved it in a savings account.

Sorry but there is no issue other than WT had to pay over the odds to get the ground back but that was a commercial decision and one that in the long term will be worth it.

None story for me.


There you go it's concluded. You must be so gullible the devil is in the detail you don't know who I am some do trust me it's concluded read what it's about!
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Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 6:11 pm  

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There you go it's concluded. You must be so gullible the devil is in the detail you don't know who I am some do trust me it's concluded read what it's about!


Ok have your way.

Personally I’d just admit you read the date wrongly.

Oh and from memory I believe your an ex copper but I might be getting you confused with someone else.
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Re: NCA back in town Fri May 28, 2021 10:02 pm  

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As I pointed out if you read my post. Did you read the bit about the investigation into the council loan...
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Yes I read it.

I read it January when the article was published.

I have no idea whether the matter is closed or not (though I think Mr Minards did say as much on a fan's forum), but I am certain of one thing from the link shared - there has been no news or development since January.
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