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Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:15 am  
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It's increasingly looking like our games V Leigh are relegation deciders.
How gloomy, relying on 1 team to be worse than ourselves to stay in SL.

A more positive view would be, we are better than one team to stay up :D
Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:20 am  

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[quote="PopTart"]I think we are all aware of that now.
What the stats were pointing out is that not every replacement is better.
If we are to replace Chester, it needs to be a good replacement, otherwise (IMO) we are better fighting it out with what we have.[/quote

Just as a matter of intrest you say bringing in a replacement wouldnt nessaceeraly be better but how could it be worse.credit to you for sticking by the man you love just hope he pulls us out of this poop.
Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:20 am  

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Dunkirk Spirit wrote:
A more positive view would be, we are better than one team to stay up :D


Are we?
Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:29 am  

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[quote="Luppylad"]

Again, I'm not sticking with him. I am simply pointing out that he has been good for us in the past, he has suffered a lot of damage to his team plans outside his control and the team seem bonded to try and improve, which they are doing, albeit slowly.
Just putting a less capable coach in place will make things worse.

Agar and Webster being a great example.
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Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:32 am  
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homme vaste wrote:
Are we?

Yes, taking the positive view, rather than the negative one.
Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:50 am  

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djcool wrote:
Anyone notice that after his 1st try Gaskell had a Wakefield badge by his name?


Surely just an error ???
Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 9:52 am  

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[quote="PopTart"]
Agar got us to the play offs in his first season and Webster won 5 and drew 1 of his first 7 games to steer us away from a relegation battle. New coach syndrome more often than not has an effect and i’d take that bounce now. A fresh perspective counts for a lot.
Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 10:06 am  

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Dunkirk Spirit wrote:
A more positive view would be, we are better than one team to stay up :D


Indeed, but I am really struggling to be positive at this time.
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Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 10:16 am  

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[quote="Sacred Cow"]

I think you misunderstood.
I was saying Agar was a good coach hounded out and replaced with Webster. It got a boost but he hardly won any more after that burst. So we were back where we started when we replaced him.
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Re: Leigh Tue May 18, 2021 10:27 am  

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[quote="PopTart"]
Right I get you. But the point remains that the boost saved us from a highly likely relegation battle. I said on here prior to the Leeds game we need to be winning 3 of the next 4 if we want to breathe relatively easy this year, two ad an absolute bare minimum as ling as one is Leigh. If these next 3 games don’t go well then i don’t see us having any option but to make a change, even if that change is one of Poching or Last taking it until the end of the season.

Either way though in my opinion it is time for a change next season. We need new ideas and a fresh outlook. The succession planning should start now whether Chester gets to play out the season or not. 6 seasons is a long time for a coach. A change will do everyone good.
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