Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:52 pm  

vastman wrote:

Yes, there is a plan for the West terrace but it's not part of the YC deal and is on the back burner for now.

Let's be straight here if the East/North stand happens then that along with new floodlights, a new pitch, a re-purposed cats bar, that's more capital investment in 3 years than BV has seen in the last 100 years so we need to remain realistic, the west stand won't be developed for a while.

Shame about the WT, to be fair it will be the only section letting the ground down, but I suppose it's not on view, especially for TV purposes. Perception and all that.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:54 pm  

Yeah I completely agree, what is currently planned will completely transform the club and will hopefully create abit of momentum behind the club. Which can then be used to push further on, and a plan in place for remaining stands is reassuring to know

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:59 pm  

PopTart wrote:

That's the sensible approach I would expect. Hull KR did their ground in pieces too. Can't say for sur but I think Widnes did too.
It would be great to just magically get a whole stadium done in the off season but I'd be happy with once stand to be honest. Pitch would be great. Anything else can be add ons as we can afford.

We all know the old saying that money attracts money. The same applies here. At the moment anyone with cash to splash will look at BV ad wonder where to start, as at first glance the place looks beyond redemption.

However, a new East stand with car park and landscaping and a nice fit for purpose North stand and all of a sudden BV no longer looks a lost cause. A lot of people, especially those with money don't have the imagination needed to see what could be, why should they. Once the proposed redevelopment is done it will be a lot easier to get those people to dig deep for the next stage. It's not a criticism as nobody wants to throw good money after bad with little result, but when you can see the results smack bang in front of you, well that's a different story.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:18 pm  

Any training facilities or is that in the new east stand I’m presuming the 1st team will train on the 4 g pitch ?

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:23 pm  

Yc could sponsor the stadium for life or other financial backing !!!

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:25 pm  

Heads of terms are quite detailed in the running of things for anyone interested in these things. The council are party to the 106 and are making a contribution.

6. PLANNING OBLIGATIONS BY NEWMARKET LANE LIMITED RELATING TO PLOT 8 AT NEWMARKET

6.1 - No development shall commence on the Plot 8 Land in advance of the expiry of the judicial review period for the planning permission for the Development. Should a judicial review challenge be mounted in respect of the Planning Permission then the obligations below shall commence from the date of final disposal of any challenge with the Planning Permission being upheld by the Court.

6.2 - The Developer shall pay the Plot 8 Financial Contribution into the account within 1 week of the expiry of the judicial review period.

6.3 - Within two months of the date of grant of planning permission, the Developer shall obtain a fixed price tender for Contract 1 for the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1.

6.4 - Subject to clauses 6.1, 6.2, and 8.1, Contract 1 to carry out the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1 shall be let by Newmarket Lane Limited within 2 months of the date when the latter of the receipt of the Tender Price, the payment of the Plot 8 Financial Contribution into the account and the payment of the Council Contribution into the account has occurred.

6.5 - The Contract shall provide for the completion of the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1 within 12 months of the commencement of the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1 or such other date as shall be agreed between Newmarket Lane Limited, the Council and Spirit of 1873 Limited, subject always to extensions of time permitted in accordance with the terms of the Contract.

6.6 - The Developer shall be entitled to draw monies out of the Account for the purposes of paying the Contract 1 Contractor and the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1 design team at the rate of £[●] per month starting from the date of commencement of Contract 1.

6.7 - Step in rights shall be provided for in Contract 1 for the Council or Spirit of 1873 Limited in order to complete the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1 in the event of default.

7. PLANNING OBLIGATION BY SPIRIT OF 1873 LIMITED RELATING TO BELLE VUE

7.1 - To commence the Belle Vue Works Scheme 2 within 6 months of the completion of the Belle Vue Works Scheme 1 and to complete it within [●] months.

7.2 - To grant the Licence to Newmarket Lane Limited within 1 month of the date of grant of the Planning Permission and in any event prior to the letting of Contract 1.

7.3 - To submit the Community Works Scheme to the Council for its approval.

8. COUNCIL OBLIGATIONS

8.1 - Not later than 1 week after the receipt of the Tender Price the Council shall pay the Council Contribution into the Account.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:26 pm  

cosmicat wrote:

Yc could sponsor the stadium for life or other financial backing !!!

F that, they are morally obligated to do this, no need to give them a freebie.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:48 pm  

cosmicat wrote:

Any training facilities or is that in the new east stand I’m presuming the 1st team will train on the 4 g pitch ?

I'm going to get you a link to the plans when I get the chance, but basically, BV is the training facility with the East stand containing a gym, treatment rooms, changing rooms, meeting rooms, etc.

The 4G pitch offers all-year-round availability for all teams, with floodlights that are cost-efficient. No need for any external facilities.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:09 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: Just been having a good look at the latest document on the developers planning application https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary Open link, tap document top right, click on 10th September, revised planning statement. There is a comprehensive list of subjects but number 8 to 14 I found very interesting and enlightening. The developers legal team really seems to be pushing the boat out to get their application passed, by using The community Stadium, Wakefield Trinity, the need for sporting facilities, the list is endless, also explaining the enabling development history, 106 agreements, Enjoy ..excellent work DS...thanks for keeping us all updated Obviously we've been here before and whilst the latest updates all look very promising, we don't want to get hood-winked again, so for those that are up-to-speed with planning developments such as these, does it look water-tight this time around, or are there any potential get-out clauses that an unscrupulous developer could use to worm his way out of his legal obligation ?? I have just had a quick read of some of the latest documents and the only thing that I can see (which is probably not an issue at all) is that the developers are listed as Newmarket Lane Ltd and NOT Yorkcourt Ltd or Henry Boot Ltd. A quick Google search shows that 2 of the directors are Hamer BOOT and Scott MACKIE ... https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/newmarket-lane Looking at their accounts (again I am no accountant, so don't really know what I am looking at here)... https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/form ... /512465103 Do they seem like a viable company that are likely to give us what we are owed, as to me those accounts (albeit from 2019) show that they owe £6.4 million to their creditors who, unsurprisingly are Yorkcourt and Henry Boot !!

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: Just been having a good look at the latest document on the developers planning application https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary Open link, tap document top right, click on 10th September, revised planning statement. There is a comprehensive list of subjects but number 8 to 14 I found very interesting and enlightening. The developers legal team really seems to be pushing the boat out to get their application passed, by using The community Stadium, Wakefield Trinity, the need for sporting facilities, the list is endless, also explaining the enabling development history, 106 agreements, Enjoy ..excellent work DS...thanks for keeping us all updated Obviously we've been here before and whilst the latest updates all look very promising, we don't want to get hood-winked again, so for those that are up-to-speed with planning developments such as these, does it look water-tight this time around, or are there any potential get-out clauses that an unscrupulous developer could use to worm his way out of his legal obligation ?? I have just had a quick read of some of the latest documents and the only thing that I can see (which is probably not an issue at all) is that the developers are listed as Newmarket Lane Ltd and NOT Yorkcourt Ltd or Henry Boot Ltd. A quick Google search shows that 2 of the directors are Hamer BOOT and Scott MACKIE ... https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/newmarket-lane Looking at their accounts (again I am no accountant, so don't really know what I am looking at here)... https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/form ... /512465103 Do they seem like a viable company that are likely to give us what we are owed, as to me those accounts (albeit from 2019) show that they owe £6.4 million to their creditors who, unsurprisingly are Yorkcourt and Henry Boot !!

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:12 pm  

vastman wrote:

I'm going to get you a link to the plans when I get the chance, but basically, BV is the training facility with the East stand containing a gym, treatment rooms, changing rooms, meeting rooms, etc.

The 4G pitch offers all-year-round availability for all teams, with floodlights that are cost-efficient. No need for any external facilities.

Long way to go but I’m genuinely pleased for the club and all the supporters up the trinity