FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Relegation Confirmed
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20862
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 22:008th Oct 24 21:54LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:34 pm  
MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:
They are on there. The balance sheet shows net assets of £754,393. On the face of it it looks good, however it only looks good on paper. There are fixed assets of £6,302,584 which is the value of the land and buildings. Current assets of £482,566. Against this there are over £800,000 of creditors falling in one year and over £5m in creditors falling due after more than one year. So we have net assets but only if you can sell the ground to pay the creditors. The true position is that we have over £6m in creditors and very little if no means to repay the creditors. You can paint whatever picture you want on paper but in truth we need the takeover completed


Those accounts are a year old.
The director loans are not going to be transferred and the stadium and other income pays the other loans, same as everyone else who has a mortgage.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20862
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 22:008th Oct 24 21:54LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:35 pm  
Prince Buster wrote:
I did say, Ellis will most likely not take directors loans, at least I thought I did.
The accounts have not been filed at companies House, I agree. But any due diligence will have up to date on going trading figures , I know you will not be party to them but others are


Are you party to them?
dboy 
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4212
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 12 200519 years106th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 20:318th Oct 24 17:24LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Barnsley

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:35 pm  
All of that debt is serviced. All payment schedules are up to date.

What point are you trying to make?

Every club - indeed every business - runs debts.

It's a straight forward principle of business practice.

Of course, if we start to have less income coupled with rising costs, servicing the debt can become problematic. Ask Bradford.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach5293
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 11 200420 years77th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Oct 24 15:495th Oct 24 17:24LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Orange street

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:48 pm  
Do you know slugger asks a reasonable question. I put in my five penneth to help him out with what I know and then all this.
dboy 
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4212
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 12 200519 years106th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 20:318th Oct 24 17:24LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Barnsley

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:52 pm  
Prince Buster wrote:
Do you know slugger asks a reasonable question. I put in my five penneth to help him out with what I know and then all this.


Pop Tart asked you a reasonable question also.

Why the chippy response?

I don't get it.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20862
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 22:008th Oct 24 21:54LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:53 pm  
Prince Buster wrote:
Do you know slugger asks a reasonable question. I put in my five penneth to help him out with what I know and then all this.


I was just asking because you said you didn't think I'd see the current accounts. Which is correct, but as you'd posted a number I assumed you meant you did have access to them.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4130No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 01 200717 years146th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 16:5210th Apr 24 17:42LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
IN A FIELD LOOKING AT THE STARS
Signature
WAKEFIELD FANS ARE BORN, NOT MANUFACTURED.WE DO NOT CHOOSE, WE ARE CHOSEN. THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND NEED NO EXPLANATION. THOSE WHO DONT, DONT MATTER.

I AM THE SEEKER OF TRUTH AND
JUSTICE

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:02 pm  
PopTart wrote:
Those accounts are a year old.
The director loans are not going to be transferred and the stadium and other income pays the other loans, same as everyone else who has a mortgage.
yes they are the accounts for 2022 which have just been filed, the latest ones on companies, are you saying we are now in a better position
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20862
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Oct 24 22:008th Oct 24 21:54LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:11 pm  
MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:
yes they are the accounts for 2022 which have just been filed, the latest ones on companies, are you saying we are now in a better position


I don't know. I haven't seen them, but I can say you can't make judgements in the current state of the club based on those accounts.

I don't really understand why you are so worried about them.
Debt is just the way the world works and we have a way of servicing the loans as, unlike a house, this asset earns money...providing they finish it soon.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4503No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 11 200519 years311th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
7th Apr 24 19:5619th Sep 23 23:13LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Barnsley

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:32 pm  
imwakefieldtillidie wrote:
I said after the Hull friendly it was a low quality squad. Vastman told me I was wrong and that I was a low quality fan. I wonder if he'll come back tonight and apologise.

No complaints from me, we were the worst team and deserve to go down. Time to clear the decks and start the rebuild.


On another note where is that wind bag these days?

Anybody who knew anything about rugby league knew we were in trouble at the Featherstone game
The buck stops with Carter I don’t blame Applegarth he did his best and is the scapegoat for the total and utter mismanagement of the club over the last 4 seasons
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4130No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 01 200717 years146th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Oct 24 16:5210th Apr 24 17:42LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
IN A FIELD LOOKING AT THE STARS
Signature
WAKEFIELD FANS ARE BORN, NOT MANUFACTURED.WE DO NOT CHOOSE, WE ARE CHOSEN. THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND NEED NO EXPLANATION. THOSE WHO DONT, DONT MATTER.

I AM THE SEEKER OF TRUTH AND
JUSTICE

Re: Relegation Confirmed : Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:00 pm  
GET EM ON SIDE REF wrote:
On another note where is that wind bag these days?

Anybody who knew anything about rugby league knew we were in trouble at the Featherstone game
The buck stops with Carter I don’t blame Applegarth he did his best and is the scapegoat for the total and utter mismanagement of the club over the last 4 seasons
he's been a Facebook a few times then he's vanished again
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: eric35, lifelongfan and 545 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Awards
Shifty Cat
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
17s
Recruitment rumours and links
rubber ducki
3269
26s
Film game
Boss Hog
4169
34s
Grand final Tickets
MattyB
64
37s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62616
1m
Awards
Shifty Cat
9
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2464
1m
NRL
Deadcowboys1
4
1m
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
Uncle Rico
3
1m
Transfer Talk V5
cheekydiddle
26
1m
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
MorePlaymake
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Has anyone got any idea what is going on
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
Awards
Shifty Cat
9
TODAY
dan russell confirmed 2 year contract
MorePlaymake
8
TODAY
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
2025 Catalans Dragons Kit
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
MorePlaymake
13
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Grand Final
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Transfer Talk V5
cheekydiddle
26
TODAY
OUT 2025 Leon Ruan - Released
excruciating
8
TODAY
IN 2025 Cooper Jenkins - Expires 2026
christopher
26
TODAY
Search Sexy Girls from your city for night - Authentic Damse
excruciating
2
TODAY
IN 2025 Keenan Palasia - Expires 2026
Emagdnim13
11
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Grand Final
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back Grand Finals
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
NRL
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth Consecutive Title
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
MattyB
64
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
Wildthing
3
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
MorePlaymake
20
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
Butcher
40
TODAY
Decision on the field
Trainman
19
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
ratticusfinc
41
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
367
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
469
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
347
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
494
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
547
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
962
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
1028
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1384
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1577
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1323
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1720
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1532
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1657
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1875
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2416
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 12th Oct
SL
18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 13th Oct
CH
15:00
Swinton-Hunslet
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 6th Oct
L1 26 Keighley6-20Hunslet
CH 29 Bradford25-12Featherstone
WSL2024 16 York V18-8St.HelensW
NRL 31 Melbourne6-14Penrith
Sat 5th Oct
CH 29 York27-10Widnes
SL 29 Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Bradford 27 703 399 304 36
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 0 0 0 0 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Awards
Shifty Cat
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
17s
Recruitment rumours and links
rubber ducki
3269
26s
Film game
Boss Hog
4169
34s
Grand final Tickets
MattyB
64
37s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62616
1m
Awards
Shifty Cat
9
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2464
1m
NRL
Deadcowboys1
4
1m
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
Uncle Rico
3
1m
Transfer Talk V5
cheekydiddle
26
1m
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
MorePlaymake
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Has anyone got any idea what is going on
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
Awards
Shifty Cat
9
TODAY
dan russell confirmed 2 year contract
MorePlaymake
8
TODAY
Play-off Semi Final Toulouse A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
2025 Catalans Dragons Kit
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Oli Leyland confirmed 2 year deal
MorePlaymake
13
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Grand Final
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Transfer Talk V5
cheekydiddle
26
TODAY
OUT 2025 Leon Ruan - Released
excruciating
8
TODAY
IN 2025 Cooper Jenkins - Expires 2026
christopher
26
TODAY
Search Sexy Girls from your city for night - Authentic Damse
excruciating
2
TODAY
IN 2025 Keenan Palasia - Expires 2026
Emagdnim13
11
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Grand Final
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back Grand Finals
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
NRL
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth Consecutive Title
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
MattyB
64
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
Wildthing
3
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
MorePlaymake
20
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
Butcher
40
TODAY
Decision on the field
Trainman
19
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
ratticusfinc
41
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
367
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
469
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
347
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
494
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
547
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
962
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
1028
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1384
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1577
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1323
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1720
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1532
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1657
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1875
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2416


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!