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Re: New Signing : Thu May 15, 2014 7:55 pm  
British, 24-proven in Super League and can score tries. Not in bad form and with a point to prove will be trying to impress. What's not to like. Good signing and in area where we need strengthening. Works for me.
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Re: New Signing : Thu May 15, 2014 10:44 pm  
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Sorry but don't agree, for me you're way over rating a player with 2 SL games to his name who frankly know one mentioned on here until he scored a winner against Cas.

Owen has way more RL pedigree regardless of who he plays for - he's a in a different class to Kaye and anyone who knows RL would tell you that. Think you have rose tinted specs on here.

Whether long term Kay would have been the better signing who knows it's pure speculation which is exactly what a prospect is - personally I was a fan of Liams and wished we'd kept him. I'd have preferred that to any Owen deal. However fan of his as I am I can't and won't kid myself that at this moment he's a better player than Owen because he simple isn't if you base it on current and previous form.


How am I over rating him, I said he was highly regarded at both Doncaster and Leigh, which he is.
I said he'd handled everything SL had thrown at him and had done so with aplomb, which he did.

You may not have mentioned him before he scored against Cas but don't try speaking for everyone, I for one knew quite a bit about him both as a junior and as a Doncaster player.

Owen doesn't have a greater RL pedigree that's just you building a case, he does have more experience though I'll admit that. What Kaye has that Owen doesn't is unknown potential, we don't know yet how good he could be.Owen on the other hand is a known quantity and fits the description I gave in my earlier post.

Well done on trying to claim some kind of knowledge based higher ground with your "anyone who knows RL would tell you that" comment but I'll back my judgement thank you and although I don't know you I'd trust my judgement over yours based on your posts.
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 12:26 am  
How can u say Owen is a known quantity when he is only 24.he is still young and learning so as still got unknown potential just like kaye
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 6:31 am  
Owen is past it!

Not shown anything since he left Liverpool, years ago!
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 6:49 am  
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How can u say Owen is a known quantity when he is only 24.he is still young and learning so as still got unknown potential just like kaye


I am sorry but did you think before you posted this because I am fairly certain based on the number of games played in SL his qualities are known. I agree we are all learning even me and I am over 50.
In respect of Kaye I do not know a lot about him but if he has potential then why wasn't he signed by another SL club. I guess his potential is still unclear but let's see how his future career path develops once his contract expires at Leigh. We will then have a better idea if we made a mistake in not paying him what his agent believed he was worth.
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 6:51 am  
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How can u say Owen is a known quantity when he is only 24.he is still young and learning so as still got unknown potential just like kaye


Not really, he's played over 100 games for Cas whereas Kay played only two for us. The only thing he's learning is that he can no longer drink over the festive period.
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 7:05 am  
So, welcome on board Richard Owen. Hope you have a great career at Wakefield.
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 7:08 am  
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Not really, he's played over 100 games for Cas whereas Kay played only two for us. The only thing he's learning is that he can no longer drink over the festive period.


I hope he sees Wakefield as a way of resurrection his career and fixing his off field issues. Both the Santa incident and his confidence afterhis injury.
Cockayne is a good example to follow to Wakefield. He made the best of his time here after a bad time elsewhere.
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 8:03 am  
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How am I over rating him, I said he was highly regarded at both Doncaster and Leigh, which he is.
I said he'd handled everything SL had thrown at him and had done so with aplomb, which he did.

You may not have mentioned him before he scored against Cas but don't try speaking for everyone, I for one knew quite a bit about him both as a junior and as a Doncaster player.

Owen doesn't have a greater RL pedigree that's just you building a case, he does have more experience though I'll admit that. What Kaye has that Owen doesn't is unknown potential, we don't know yet how good he could be.Owen on the other hand is a known quantity and fits the description I gave in my earlier post.

Well done on trying to claim some kind of knowledge based higher ground with your "anyone who knows RL would tell you that" comment but I'll back my judgement thank you and although I don't know you I'd trust my judgement over yours based on your posts.


Well we'll have to beg to differ. I wasn't referring to myself by the way, it's some of the people I know who "know" RL and it's when I speak to them I realise how little most posters on this forum know, including me - so son't take it to heart.

Owen will a good signing if he's managed well.
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Re: New Signing : Fri May 16, 2014 8:58 am  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
I am sorry but did you think before you posted this because I am fairly certain based on the number of games played in SL his qualities are known. I agree we are all learning even me and I am over 50.
In respect of Kaye I do not know a lot about him but if he has potential then why wasn't he signed by another SL club. I guess his potential is still unclear but let's see how his future career path develops once his contract expires at Leigh. We will then have a better idea if we made a mistake in not paying him what his agent believed he was worth.

it was you who said Kaye as unknown potential wich Owen asnt so because he as played over 100 games that means he as no unknown potential he is just going to play the same all is career
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