What makes you think we could even compete at that standard?



I've been watching championship rugby a bit more this past couple of seasons as I stopped going to Trinity away games, and at best we are bottom half of the championship at present, and would likely lose any of our slightly better players leaving us even worse.



I can see a very real possibility that we drop straight through the championship into championship 1

If prepared and planned for correctly, with the right people running the club, and making the right decisons, it wont be an easy road, buy its not impossible either.



Invest in your youth, believe on them, some shrewd players with experience at that level and you have a competetive squad.



Its a good time to clear dead wood. Think of some players in our squad who could be freed.



Atoni

Proctor

Tafua

Hood



Shall i go on

Have you maybe thought it’s more realism over delusional or arrogant? You don’t think we’re going to turn it round within half a season and stay up do you?

I think you’re spot on with it, no Wakefield fan wants to see us playing long term championship rugby but if that’s what’s required to ensure we can move the dead wood on and rebuild then so be it.

Well what can you say.



I've run out of patience with Proctor. Atoni thank god didn't play.

Smith had some sweful moments.

And to be honest Kelelpi was a bit of a waste of time.



Balanced with some players putting maximum effort in. I really feel for them.

A further observation…..



Still the ‘anyone who disagrees with a single bullet point of my argument is a deluded idiot’ rhetoric…



I’ve always been taught that, when times get tough we pull together… seems the new mantra is, when times get tough, whinge and find a scapegoat!



And call out anyone who offers a scintilla of a contrary position!



The team are in a hole at the moment and some people seem to revel in that misery, using it to further their own agenda. It makes sharing time and discussion with people on here disagreeable … I understand it… from a socio- psychological viewpoint … but it’s unpleasant.

Bad call by the coach tonight not to play Gale. The possession we had in the first half on their line was crying out for him to play.

Well that's the million dollar question. Our revenue doesn't hold out for competing in SL, however if the forecast are accurate we have circa £600k of funding we don't currently have. It should see us put together a competitive outfit. Is Applegarth the right man to take charge of that? For me that's a no. We all know the players aren't at the level of SL, but we look so poorly Coached I don't think it would matter if we did have better players.

I was thinking just that the other day.

More like dad's army ,so slow at everything we do .most of it because 95 % of the players are to old

Watched the game tonight and admittedly I cannot comment with any authority on your season so far.

But from what I`ve seen one of your problems seems to be Lino.

He kicks and dummies far too many times or should I say at the wrong time.

He doesn`t link between the forwards and the backs for me.

Proctor a complete waste of space.

Was Gale injured as whilst he is nowhere good enough to play at the top I think he will help.

Get your first win from somewhere and you might put pressure on Cas.

Good luck for the rest of the season.

If we currently had the right people running the club and making the right decisions we wouldn't be looking at getting relegated



If they can't do it with all of the privileges that come with playing at the top flight, what makes you think they can do it at any level?

I thought Dagger looked good tonight, our best player.

I've not been impressed with Lino for a while, too slow, too predictable.

Stupid not playing Gale tonight.

Absolutely bored out of my mind for most of that. But I didn't really see anyone who wasn't trying. Proctor was trying it's just he's absolutley knackered after 5 minutes and plays the ball like a 98 year old. What I don't get is hasn't he played most of his career runnning onto the ball wider? if so why are we having him plow it up the middle?

We are clearly inhibited by extrmely low confidence because there were little patches where we played the ball at speed, got the ball wide at speed and actually ran on to the ball at speed. The problem is for the rest of the time everything is so laboured in both attack and defence that the opposition have it way too easy.

We can't change the squad the only thing we can change is the head coach. He's gotta go we still somehow have a tiny glimmer of hope because Cas are also gash, just not as gash as us at this point. Surely we wouldn't want him in charge next year after a season of such failure this, so why wait anyway?

I heard Gale had a groin injury, anyone else hear that?

I have been saying the same about Lino all year. I’ve never been convinced by him. Bags of effort but nobody knows what he’s going to do. He holds the ball up too much too often which allows teams to fix up. Kicking on 3/4th a few times. Wakey have him as main playmaker. He’s a running supporting 6 and the ball needs to be in the other half’s hands much more. I’d honestly try Gale and Smith next week as Lino has been the only constant all season.

I'd be dropping Lino for Gale at the first opportunity.

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Lino playing very much like a stand off at the moment and forgetting about his job at half back. Personally I think Gale at 7 and Lino at 6 could work but Smith definitely earning the shirt at the moment so Gale/Smith is what he’ll probably go with.

The one thing that was clear from tonight is that we are not a team, even if we did offload the ball there was no one in support. I am sorry but the blame lays with the coach, I agree he does not have much to work with which is the club’s fault but he is incapable of getting the best out of them.

Totally agree. This is a team sport, so I see no value in ever blaming an individual player for what is a wider issue. We don't know that he's not got much to work with, there are some fairly good players in the team which he just seems incapable of even getting the basics out of, and to add to that, he doesn't seem to push fitness, have any notable tactics, or any team building skills.

Well once again that was utterly dire. We offer nothing with the ball, Smiths promising game last week was obviously a flash in the pan as he was back to worse than useless again. Lino is having to play a game that doesn’t suit him and do it by himself, poor lad doesn’t stand a chance. The forwards were weak defensively, some of those attempts were awful. We’ve zero pace in the team, and whilst Dagger saved us more than once he offers nothing as a link man. Hood is about as sharp at dummy half as my old mum and Proctor is possibly the least value for money player in our history. We average 6 points a game. How Applegarth keeps his job i don’t know but it just stinks of the cheap option and accepting our fate and prepping for going with mainly kids next year. Trust me that won’t work in the championship either.

The reality is we have a team who are athletically inferior to the rest in the competition.



We lack pace, agility and strength.



Every team generally runs the same pattens the good teams execute these patterns quickly and at the line and the creative player more often than not picks the right option runner be it out of the back or pick up the line runner.



We execute slowly and more often than not pick the wrong option….which combined with the lack of athleticism is a sure fire recipe for the position in which we find ourselves.



I cannot remember leaving a game and feeling so deflated and accepting of our fate as I was leaving the ground tonight.

Smith is earning the shirt?? Wow is that’s some sort of

Suck joke? He’s by far the worst half back in the league and the club. I’d rather play my 11 year old at least he wouldn’t be kicking the ball on the second and third tackle nearly every time he gets it!

Lino is playing his natural game, he is a runner not a creative midfield general despite what we were told when he signed.



Gale needs to take up the midfield general role we have not been able to find since the days of Finn and Williams and just let Lino do his thing.

Gale himself said it's a groin injury. P