: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:49 am  

vastman wrote:

I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird. This is Bird a player who as yet has done sod all in SL but hey let's all look over the fence and rue what we haven't got instead of praising what we have.

Must have missed the many posts praising Ferguson, Bibey, Sculthorpe and even Henderson on here then!

Would I prefer Bird or Henderson? Tough question...I shouldn't judge Kev after a couple of mediocre seasons now he's played a couple of decent games!

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:53 am  

vastman wrote:

Exactly.

If I were Atkins I'd be thinking why am I not being described as awsome considering I played 80 mins, tackles like a deamon and did everything right.

Yet instead in true Trinity style we wet ourselves over a single Aussie who had a half decent start but may well implode due to off field issues.

I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird. This is Bird a player who as yet has done sod all in SL but hey let's all look over the fence and rue what we haven't got instead of praising what we have.

To all the star gazers on this thread I ask a simple question, which of our under achieving squad would you sacrifice to fit in this Dame Edna level megastar?

Logically I'd drop JD for him as he's probably make a better utility player.
Yes folks this is what we are talking about here or you could go for Gleeson or Atkins or even Martin the choice is yours.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:08 am  

TRB wrote:

It is a thread called 'Greg Bird', and we don't have to want them in our side to appreciate the skill they offer - which is substantial in his case.

In no thread have I made one negative comment about our side from yesterday, made one suggestion of dropping, changing or getting rid of any player - but yes, I though Greg Bird was fantastic, but that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours.[/b]

I'm not digging at you in particular or anyone in general it just happens you used the expression "awesome" which from you seemed way OTT as I have to say is "fantastic" he just wasn't IMHO. I'm just amazed that we have a thread this long as regards one player who doesn't play for us whilst Fergusons has limped to two pages - where is the logic I just don't get it. Yes it is all about opinion and mine is that I can't see how he has warranted such adulation on that one showing, he just didn't.

Clearly Bird is a good player by reputation and showed glimpses but he hasn't earned it in SL yet and there is no guarantee he will. Trent Barrett was a decent SL but he never IMO quite lived up to the billing. I just think we are too quick to praise them just because they do what they are supposed to do, I saw nothing that was extraordinary or much better than was on offer elsewhere. The fact that he had just arrived is a red herring IMHO, in a way it's easier for a player to do that as he has nothing to lose, it's a ready made excuse. See how he goes in 6 games time or even if he is still here.

Yes I would sign him if he became available in the close season, but for now he is not a Trinity player and that doesn't bother me and if he proves a great buy for Catalan that doesn't bother me either.

I'm happy with what we have, I'm a simple old fool like that. Finally your opinion is always most welcome in my book and always will be even when it gets a bit flowery

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:09 am  

t-r-i-n-i-t-y wrote:

Would I prefer Bird or Henderson? Tough question...I shouldn't judge Kev after a couple of mediocre seasons now he's played a couple of decent games!

But I bet Bird hasn't signed for Hendo's wages.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:15 am  

t-r-i-n-i-t-y wrote:

Must have missed the many posts praising Ferguson, Bibey, Sculthorpe and even Henderson on here then!

Would I prefer Bird or Henderson? Tough question...I shouldn't judge Kev after a couple of mediocre seasons now he's played a couple of decent games!

No it's not a tough question, it would be Bird - just don't overlook the fact that Bird doesn't play for us will you

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:18 am  

owiepob wrote:

Come off it Vasty, when you open a thread titled 'Greg Bird' you have to expect that people will be discussing the performance of ........ wait for it ............ Greg Bird. Save yourself getting upset by reading about him by only opening threads that are not about him.

Agreed, maybe I shouldn't but the praise heaped on this bloke amazes me it really does. Forgive me, maybe I will just have to accept that in this case I clearly don't get it - whatever it is

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:44 am  

vastman wrote:

I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird.

Perhaps its because this thread, is named "Greg Bird"

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:46 am  

mwildcats wrote:

Perhaps its because this thread, is named "Greg Bird"

Think he means all the attention seems to be on Bird and no one seems botherd about how well OUR team played.

eg. Thread on Fergi no one seems arsed about.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:51 am  

adam9641 wrote:

Think he means all the attention seems to be on Bird and no one seems botherd about how well OUR team played.

eg. Thread on Fergi no one seems arsed about.

Come off it, There's many threads about 3/4 on different players they all played well yesterday, however cant have a thread about everyone cos they all played so well, I thought fergie played excellent yesterday however i have all season and dont want to appear to love a player and back him at every opportunity . There's also a thread on very proud and there has been numerous about how well we've dont this season.

This is a thread about the different opinions of an opposistion player. If vastman dosent want to read about this, and would like to focus on our team i suggest he dosent read this thread.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:51 am  

I have to say that the generality of your postings regarding this matter I agree with. Many posters are, in my opinion, overly hasty to elevate players to world, and international class without sufficient evidence to juastify these claims.

Frequently players simply have to perform their jobs consistently for their international potential to be touted on here.

I don't think it does players any favours to be prematurely praised. I would urge caution regarding Fergie in this respect. Lets not confuse consistently doing his job well with anything other than consistency.

The flip side to this is that players end up playing under the pressure of unrealistic expectations.