Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:43 am  

We need those pathways reestablishing from getting kids interested in schools right through to getting scholarships and beyond . Remember a few years ago now a youthful James Bachelor used to come into our school and get the kids engaged with rugby in an after school club which was well attended through Trinity.Then Francis Malony and Wayne Godwin used to come in as part of a private enterprise by I think Ryan Hudson . If we are serious about developing and retaining our talented youth , we could do far worse than give mash this role and get those pathways and links back up and running in the area alongside coaching our reserves and the likes

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:05 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Cleaner I believe

He just needs to climb in the wheelie bin and put himself out on Thursday morning, job done

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:12 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

I hope so.

For a new coach debut season to have lost a number of stars (TJ, Fifita, Orona, Miller, Tupou) and be last to the party for recruitment he almost got the job done but for some close losses or a slip up vs Cas.

Looking at the longer picture. He probably learnt a lot about himself and being a coach. Learning under Powell for a few years would place him more ready and likely in a better position to sssist as an assistant.

I do think some continuity is needed and Mash has knowledge of players and the club from scholarship to first team. I’d be fine with it.

What purpose does keeping him serve?
Darryl Powell will be well aware of Applegarths duplicity and his role in removing Willie Poching. Any Coach in any sport doesn’t want an assistant who will act behind his back to undermine you.

Even if he does stay as assistant, what are we going to do, offer him the Head Coaches job in a couple of years because after his shocking performances and poor delivery of the last season I for one wouldn’t want to see him as Head Coach again

You speak of continuity, well what is it that you saw this last season that you want a continuance of?

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:21 am  

Also, Applegarth paid little attention to our own youth this season, so that argument falls flat. The bloke got this club relegated, unforgivable for me.

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:15 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Cleaner I believe

I was no fan of M A in his role as coach but when he was bringing the young lads through he was very well thought of and did an excellent job.
Obviously he was then offered the job as head coach and took it-if you were ambitious wouldn’t you have done the same?
He wasn’t up to it and should have been relieved after 10 games.
But to rubbish him by suggesting he comes back as a cleaner is juvenile and offensive.
He’s WT through and through - ok he got it very wrong but don’t kick the guy now he’s down- or is that what you do?

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:43 am  

1315trinity wrote:

I was no fan of M A in his role as coach but when he was bringing the young lads through he was very well thought of and did an excellent job.
Obviously he was then offered the job as head coach and took it-if you were ambitious wouldn’t you have done the same?
He wasn’t up to it and should have been relieved after 10 games.
But to rubbish him by suggesting he comes back as a cleaner is juvenile and offensive.
He’s WT through and through - ok he got it very wrong but don’t kick the guy now he’s down- or is that what you do?

I am not kicking him now he is down, I have always thought that it was a bad appointment and had more to do with the needs of others. He at any other club would have been replaced when it became obvious he is out of his depth as an head coach especially with a squad he was presented with.
I actually thought I was being generous with my job suggestion, because I would be surprised if he will be retained in any capacity.

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:44 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Cleaner I believe

You really do need to try a bit of self awareness mate..
Try thinking about some of the stuff you put up on here before you actually post it!

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Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:13 am  

The Avenger wrote:

What purpose does keeping him serve?
Darryl Powell will be well aware of Applegarths duplicity and his role in removing Willie Poching. Any Coach in any sport doesn’t want an assistant who will act behind his back to undermine you.

Even if he does stay as assistant, what are we going to do, offer him the Head Coaches job in a couple of years because after his shocking performances and poor delivery of the last season I for one wouldn’t want to see him as Head Coach again

You speak of continuity, well what is it that you saw this last season that you want a continuance of?

You say Powell will know but he and Ellis are the ones talking about it. It isn't a fans opinion.

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Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:13 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I am not kicking him now he is down, I have always thought that it was a bad appointment and had more to do with the needs of others. He at any other club would have been replaced when it became obvious he is out of his depth as an head coach especially with a squad he was presented with.
I actually thought I was being generous with my job suggestion, because I would be surprised if he will be retained in any capacity.

Seems like Ellis disagrees without.

Re: Takeover updates : Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:36 am  

The Avenger wrote:

What purpose does keeping him serve?
Darryl Powell will be well aware of Applegarths duplicity and his role in removing Willie Poching. Any Coach in any sport doesn’t want an assistant who will act behind his back to undermine you.

Even if he does stay as assistant, what are we going to do, offer him the Head Coaches job in a couple of years because after his shocking performances and poor delivery of the last season I for one wouldn’t want to see him as Head Coach again

You speak of continuity, well what is it that you saw this last season that you want a continuance of?

These are questions for Ellis and Powell who are having discussions and considering if he has a place.

The part about Poching is all suspect/rumour that you are treating as fact. That’s not fair at all in my eyes. The board made the choice to appoint someone other than Poching and MA was offered the job. He accepted it and why wouldn’t he.

I mean continuity in the sense that there will be a lot of personnel I would imagine leaving the club and so goes with it knowledge and experience of a few levels of working within a rugby club. Applegarth may bridge some of this and I believe that despite not achieving the end result he will have gained a lot of experience and learnt alot this season. Taking a step back and learning under an experienced coach like Powell (not ab inexperienced one like Poching) may be of great benefit should the people who matter decide it.