Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:44 pm  

The facts are that he has "failed" a test and this is confirmed by a second test.

I cant see what difference or mitigation it would make being recreational use ?

However if it was taken specifically to allow him train pre-season and therefore be available to play for the first games of the season then I might have a legitimate cause for complaint as well the opposition clubs involved might have also.

The fact it is a Trinity player is totally irrelevant IMHO the act diminishes the whole of the game.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:47 pm  

mat wrote:

hudsons test which he failed was taken whilst he was still playing for cas so dont see how that can layed at bradfords door.

Newton played his last game for bradford 4 months before the failed test and afaik he stopped training with bradford immediately after that game as he had a season ending injury. Seriously doubt theres anything he could allegedly take that would show up in a test 4 months later. so again dont see how it can be linked to bradford.

No club nowadays instructs, encourages or even condones the use of banned substances performance enhancing or otherwise so I don't think this whatever the outcome should reflect badly on any club.

It's a personal choice.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:51 pm  

chapster wrote:

from what i understand from friends who deal with this kind of stuff its because this was the second test, which takes up to 3 months to come through and is more conclusive than the initial testing.

to be honest doesnt look good, but again no facts to deal with so who knows?

So when was his first test

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:09 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

I dont consider I was trolling

It was a legitimate question regardless of the clubs involved.

IF any player KNOWINGLY takes a performance enhancing drug which is designed to allow him to train pre-season through an injury and the said player then is selected to play in 2 early season games arent the opposition clubs involved entitled to express some concern and maybe seek some form of consideration. ?????

You may have a point...


depending on the type of drug, the timing of the first test and the sharing of this information with the club, the league and the player, the RFL by-Laws affecting this issue...

but as we know nothing of any of those issues... it's an irrelevant point based on pure conjecture and speculation...

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:15 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

I dont consider I was trolling

It was a legitimate question regardless of the clubs involved.

IF any player KNOWINGLY takes a performance enhancing drug which is designed to allow him to train pre-season through an injury and the said player then is selected to play in 2 early season games arent the opposition clubs involved entitled to express some concern and maybe seek some form of consideration. ?????

a) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that.

b) you sound like Peter Hood after Millenium Magic 2007. Give us our points back!

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:27 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

a) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that.

b) you sound like Peter Hood after Millenium Magic 2007. Give us our points back!

a) Think you missed this bit

It was a legitimate question regardless of the clubs involved.

b) Think you missed this bit

It was a legitimate question regardless of the clubs involved.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:29 pm  

underground wrote:

You may have a point...


depending on the type of drug, the timing of the first test and the sharing of this information with the club, the league and the player, the RFL by-Laws affecting this issue...

but as we know nothing of any of those issues... it's an irrelevant point based on pure conjecture and speculation...

Thats why I said.... IF and of course you are right until we know ALL the facts. So I will get back to you then.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:32 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

a) Think you missed this bit

b) Think you missed this bit

Think you missed this bit:

a) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:49 pm  

Thread Cleaned Up!

No one has been found guilty of anything - yet.

Not any player or any club. This board will not become a kangaroo court for any individual or for any club.

Any posts which could, in any circumstances, be deemed to cross this line, will be removed - and the poster either warned or banned themselves.

No leniency!

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:50 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Think you missed this bit:

a) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that

Sorry not relevant IMHO

If a convicted cheat plays in a game or games then his effect on the outcome should at least be considered.

I am not saying what the outcome of any consideration should be only that there must be some review regardless of the clubs involved.

I would qualify this by also saying the conviction MUST be for performance ehancing drugs...recreational use is not a consideration here IMHO.