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Re: New Stadium Updates : Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:29 pm  
John said at a fans forum at the beginning of the season ,that if we got relegated.The new Stadium who still go ahead let's hope it does not come to that
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:42 am  
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John said at a fans forum at the beginning of the season ,that if we got relegated.The new Stadium who still go ahead let's hope it does not come to that


He did and he’s right. The cost of the stadium upgrade is not being born by the club so the financial level the club is running at shouldn’t effect the scheme. Unlike say the LSV the cost is not funded by the club paying rent as we own the ground and Will own the infrastructure on completion.

Whether the club remains viable outside of SL is a separate issue.
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:42 am  
A post just popped up on my Facebook from 11 years ago

"yeah, planning permission granted on Trinity ground"
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:05 am  
Still got aT shirt “destination Newmarket “!!!
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:02 am  
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Still got aT shirt “destination Newmarket “!!!

Does it still fit you :D
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:56 am  
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A post just popped up on my Facebook from 11 years ago

"yeah, planning permission granted on Trinity ground"


Makes my point perfectly. For 11 years there has been planning permission for a state-of-the-art stadium, meaningless, though we didn't think so at the time. I suppose it's a bit like the planning permission to build houses on BV. :D
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:52 pm  
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A post just popped up on my Facebook from 11 years ago

"yeah, planning permission granted on Trinity ground"

Yes 11 years, quite an eventful time with lots of false dawns and broken promises, perhaps things are starting to move a little now, 2 more new documents today, only 2 pages each.
They don’t say a lot, they just appear to tie up with the recent documents that have appeared on the plot 8 application recently. Are the developers, and Council finally tying up the loose ends?

Consultee Comment. PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY WAKEFIELD COUNCIL
Consultee Details
Name: Public Rights of Way Wakefield Council
Address: Wakefield One, Burton Street, Wakefield WF1 2EB Email: Not Available
On Behalf Of: Public Rights Of Way

Comments
The comments previously made are relevant to the revised layout. The Trans Pennine Trail (TPT) / National Cycle Network Route 67 is adjacent to the southern boundary of the site and is a multi- user route for walkers, cyclists and horse riders. In the absence of evidence to the contrary there is an unrecorded public right of way from Meadowfield Rise adjacent to the south western corner of the site.
The additional western 3m wide footpath /cycle path to be provided, linking Newmarket Lane to the TPT, should have a tarmac surface for its full length. The Transport and Infrastructure plan 3.6 and the Transport Assessment addendum 2 - 3.8 refer to this path as a Hoggin-style footpath although other plans show it as tarmac.
The revised documents continue to refer to a pass gate on the bridge connecting the western footpath/cyclepath link to the Trans Pennine Trail. In the interests of accessibility the pass gate on this bridge is not required. Further information is required as to the future maintenance responsibility for the footpath/cycle path and the bridge. If the bridge is to be maintained by the Council then it will require approval to CG300 from the Council's Bridges Team. A commuted sum will be required for future maintenance of the bridge/cycle path.
The Visual Impact Assessment and revised photo montages indicate that the development has a substantial adverse visual impact on the TPT due to the proximity of the Trail on the southern boundary of the site. There are also other visual impacts on the wider path network. The proposed mitigation of this impact on the TPT and PROW network are noted. The revised Landscape
strategy 1.18 - 1.20 outlines the southern landscape buffer zone planting to mitigate the impact. It is important that the existing trees adjacent on the Trans Pennine Trail and those on the southern boundary are retained.
Regarding the proximity of the path at Meadowfield Rise and the TPT, should planning permission be granted I would be grateful if you could include the following informative: The footpath adjacent to the site and Trans Pennine Trail should not be disturbed or obstructed at any time.
We would like a contribution to improve the TPT at this location as part of the sustainable transport link to the site, including mitigation works to reduce the visual impact of the development.

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WAKEFIELD COUNCIL DRAINAGE

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Name: Wakefield Council Drainage
Address: Create, Wakefield One, Burton Street, Wakefield WF1 2EB Email: Not Available
On Behalf Of: Drainage Section (WMDC)

Comments
Since the Lead Local Flood Authoritys (LLFA) previous response dated 4 January 2021, the layout of the development and the proposals for the watercourse diversion and surface water attenuation have changed.
The watercourse diversion was questioned in the previous consultation response. Further detail of the line and level of the watercourse diversion is required. The site sections show attenuation pond 2 to be below the level of the diverted watercourse and there is a proposed bund between the watercourse and the pond. It must be demonstrated that there will be not detrimental effect of the watercourse on the attenuation ponds or vice versa.

Please note that a consent for works affecting a watercourse will be required from the LLFA which is separate to the planning process.
The surface water runoff rate should be restricted to 3.5 l/s/ha, giving a total allowable runoff rate of 26 l/s. The attenuation ponds as proposed have sufficient capacity to accommodate the additional volume required due to this change.
Further construction details of the attenuation ponds are required, but this information could be conditioned if the watercourse issues described above been resolved.
A construction phase surface water management plan is required.

Steve Lister
Senior Engineer - Development Flood Risk Land Drainage & Flood Risk Management Highways & Transport Services
Communities, Environment & Climate Change Wakefield Council
07766 367753
Email: slister@wakefield.gov.uk www.wakefield.gov.uk
PopTart wrote:
A post just popped up on my Facebook from 11 years ago

"yeah, planning permission granted on Trinity ground"

Yes 11 years, quite an eventful time with lots of false dawns and broken promises, perhaps things are starting to move a little now, 2 more new documents today, only 2 pages each.
They don’t say a lot, they just appear to tie up with the recent documents that have appeared on the plot 8 application recently. Are the developers, and Council finally tying up the loose ends?

Consultee Comment. PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY WAKEFIELD COUNCIL
Consultee Details
Name: Public Rights of Way Wakefield Council
Address: Wakefield One, Burton Street, Wakefield WF1 2EB Email: Not Available
On Behalf Of: Public Rights Of Way

Comments
The comments previously made are relevant to the revised layout. The Trans Pennine Trail (TPT) / National Cycle Network Route 67 is adjacent to the southern boundary of the site and is a multi- user route for walkers, cyclists and horse riders. In the absence of evidence to the contrary there is an unrecorded public right of way from Meadowfield Rise adjacent to the south western corner of the site.
The additional western 3m wide footpath /cycle path to be provided, linking Newmarket Lane to the TPT, should have a tarmac surface for its full length. The Transport and Infrastructure plan 3.6 and the Transport Assessment addendum 2 - 3.8 refer to this path as a Hoggin-style footpath although other plans show it as tarmac.
The revised documents continue to refer to a pass gate on the bridge connecting the western footpath/cyclepath link to the Trans Pennine Trail. In the interests of accessibility the pass gate on this bridge is not required. Further information is required as to the future maintenance responsibility for the footpath/cycle path and the bridge. If the bridge is to be maintained by the Council then it will require approval to CG300 from the Council's Bridges Team. A commuted sum will be required for future maintenance of the bridge/cycle path.
The Visual Impact Assessment and revised photo montages indicate that the development has a substantial adverse visual impact on the TPT due to the proximity of the Trail on the southern boundary of the site. There are also other visual impacts on the wider path network. The proposed mitigation of this impact on the TPT and PROW network are noted. The revised Landscape
strategy 1.18 - 1.20 outlines the southern landscape buffer zone planting to mitigate the impact. It is important that the existing trees adjacent on the Trans Pennine Trail and those on the southern boundary are retained.
Regarding the proximity of the path at Meadowfield Rise and the TPT, should planning permission be granted I would be grateful if you could include the following informative: The footpath adjacent to the site and Trans Pennine Trail should not be disturbed or obstructed at any time.
We would like a contribution to improve the TPT at this location as part of the sustainable transport link to the site, including mitigation works to reduce the visual impact of the development.

Consultee Comment
WAKEFIELD COUNCIL DRAINAGE

Consultee Details
Name: Wakefield Council Drainage
Address: Create, Wakefield One, Burton Street, Wakefield WF1 2EB Email: Not Available
On Behalf Of: Drainage Section (WMDC)

Comments
Since the Lead Local Flood Authoritys (LLFA) previous response dated 4 January 2021, the layout of the development and the proposals for the watercourse diversion and surface water attenuation have changed.
The watercourse diversion was questioned in the previous consultation response. Further detail of the line and level of the watercourse diversion is required. The site sections show attenuation pond 2 to be below the level of the diverted watercourse and there is a proposed bund between the watercourse and the pond. It must be demonstrated that there will be not detrimental effect of the watercourse on the attenuation ponds or vice versa.

Please note that a consent for works affecting a watercourse will be required from the LLFA which is separate to the planning process.
The surface water runoff rate should be restricted to 3.5 l/s/ha, giving a total allowable runoff rate of 26 l/s. The attenuation ponds as proposed have sufficient capacity to accommodate the additional volume required due to this change.
Further construction details of the attenuation ponds are required, but this information could be conditioned if the watercourse issues described above been resolved.
A construction phase surface water management plan is required.

Steve Lister
Senior Engineer - Development Flood Risk Land Drainage & Flood Risk Management Highways & Transport Services
Communities, Environment & Climate Change Wakefield Council
07766 367753
Email: slister@wakefield.gov.uk www.wakefield.gov.uk
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:06 am  
11 years, crickey, how time flies when you're having fun...

How long was it since the Durkar stadium and don't forget Thornes park!
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:27 pm  
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11 years, crickey, how time flies when you're having fun...

How long was it since the Durkar stadium and don't forget Thornes park!


Durkar 1990

Normanton at the top of Pineapple hill, was a serious proposition at one point. 1994

Thornes 2006

M1 Horbury junction near the Holiday Inn, bet you forgot that one. 2008

To name but a few.
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Re: New Stadium Updates : Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:44 pm  
Pugneys 80s
Durkar 95ish
Roundwood 97ish
Thornes park 2007
Newmarket 2009
Belle Vue upgrade 2022 please

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