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Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:47 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Yes but we need the additional finances he brings to sort out the less than promising state they left with regards our on field state both with the squad and coach. The one will not guarantee our SL return we need both to be successful. Do you believe the current incumbents have enough business acumen to maximise the off field revenue and produce a squad capable of maximising the points available or even run a full time squad.

Yes I do.
But that doesn't really matter now does it.

And you seem to have skipped past your unprofessional comment.

Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:55 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Yes but we need the additional finances he brings to sort out the less than promising state they left with regards our on field state both with the squad and coach. The one will not guarantee our SL return we need both to be successful. Do you believe the current incumbents have enough business acumen to maximise the off field revenue and produce a squad capable of maximising the points available or even run a full time squad.

They probably have enough business acumen, yes , but they probably don't have the money to put in that they acknowledge is required. I think you're disgustingly disrespectful to two men who have done far more for WT than you could ever dream of.
Time to grow up and move on.

Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:01 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Yes I do.
But that doesn't really matter now does it.

And you seem to have skipped past your unprofessional comment.

Unprofessional having the CEO appoint himself the director of rugby despite no obvious experience in this position. Having no discernible marketing of games. Not having enough staff to fill all the posts with some actually having to cover multiple posts resulting in safety concerns.
Is that how a professional sport club is run.?

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Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:54 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Unprofessional having the CEO appoint himself the director of rugby despite no obvious experience in this position. Having no discernible marketing of games. Not having enough staff to fill all the posts with some actually having to cover multiple posts resulting in safety concerns.
Is that how a professional sport club is run.?

It's how a sports club with limited money is run.
I'd be surprised if many of the CEOs in other clubs had any experience of running a sports club before they took over.
Same as Ellis has no experience either.

Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:59 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

I agree with your thanks to MC and JM.
I appreciate we're relegated, but we go down with finances in a stable position and a ground that is far superior to what it was albeit, work still to be done.
Mick Carter has had some stick on here and some criticism was justifiable, regarding his recruitment of players, but I for one haven't forgotten that he saved our club from extinction. I will be forever grateful for that.
JM came on board later but has got the best deal he can from that shambles before, of Yorkcourt etc etc - and he HAS produced a lot of what we wanted from seemingly getting nothing.
So, to all those making harsh, hurtful comments about these two guys, let them bow out with dignity and their heads held high, because they deserve to.
Or, you could always look at yourselves, which is often a good yardstick, and ask yourselves if you could have done any better. Probably not eh?

Would agree with all the points listed by 1315, but I do think that is tenure has been soured a little by his often blatant disrespect for the fans, in the end he only seemed to engage with fans when money would be forthcoming, and gave us three or four seasons of extremely poor rugby league finally culminating in relegation.

Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:37 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Would agree with all the points listed by 1315, but I do think that is tenure has been soured a little by his often blatant disrespect for the fans, in the end he only seemed to engage with fans when money would be forthcoming, and gave us three or four seasons of extremely poor rugby league finally culminating in relegation.

Take your point RC - I accept MC would have been better leaving some things, such as recruitment to those better equipped, and also accept his relationship with the fans was tainted with his attitude to some of them in his latter years - BUT taking that into account I'm simply saying MC (and JM) shouldn't be hung drawn and quartered as if they had totally ruined the club -as some on here would have you believe! Just think they deserve some credit for the positive things they have achieved and they be allowed to leave without ongoing bitterness and criticism to them.

Re: Takeover updates : Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:49 pm  

I would agree with those sentiments 1315.

Re: Takeover updates : Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:40 am  

BackSeatCoach wrote:

Vendetta? Several (yes several, not hundreds) fans continued a vociferous opposition “campaign” (sometimes unfairly) toward MC and JM which included both valid and invalid points of order.

Isn’t a vendetta about avenging death or something like that? Please let’s move on.

You’re only guessing that it’s “unfairly”, you don’t know what some others may know
Maybe their assessment of MC is the more accurate one because they’ve personally experienced the real man behind the facade he shows the public.
In that case it couldn’t be termed a “vendetta” could it!

Take someone as you find and let others do the same and if you think he’s Ok then fine but don’t condemn others who’ve seen a different side to him

Re: Takeover updates : Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:55 am  

I think that 1315 and avenger sum it up . Both statements are correct as there is always two sides . What people don't like is when one of the parties cannot accept this and just condemn one side all the time and take every opportunity to do so.

Re: Takeover updates : Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:57 am  

The Avenger wrote:

You’re only guessing that it’s “unfairly”, you don’t know what some others may know
Maybe their assessment of MC is the more accurate one because they’ve personally experienced the real man behind the facade he shows the public.
In that case it couldn’t be termed a “vendetta” could it!

Take someone as you find and let others do the same and if you think he’s Ok then fine but don’t condemn others who’ve seen a different side to him

I may have, in the past, been critical on the outgoing regime, but I never tried to make it personal. I believe, some dont, that there is nothing wrong with constructivr criticism.

Carter, Minards, Glover, Richardson have all, in their time got things both right and wrong.

I think the time is right now, not to keep looking back, but to drsw a line in the sand, and look forward to the next chapter, O am and I think it might be an exciting time.

Just a shame that it has, hopefully only temporariliy cost us our super league place.

Wonder if our first game will be against a newly promoted team.

Up the Trin