Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:01 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

What, even if you weren't a wakey fan, it was going to de value your home or even make it unsellable??? I don't think you would be as quick to make that conclusion, talk is cheap!!!! as could your home be!!!!
As a former long term editor of the daily mail once said, to win any campaign, most importantly you have to engage, and win over the people who are most against you.....or words to that effect!

There is an expression though - you can't please all of the people all of the time - which sums this up. This guy will not be won over in a month of Sundays. That is not to say we don't listen - or more to the point those who are responsible for the decision do, but our job is clear - to make our case bullet proof going forward and no amount of us 'pampering' to his whims on here is going to change anything I'm afraid.

If he wants to argue against the scheme, as it seems, then I'm sure there will be plenty of advice around as to how to go about it. If he wants to make a difference to the scheme then again he can get advice from the relevant quarters.

This forum is here for the benefit of discussion on Rugby League related matters and not to pander to take much pleasure from the failure of this venture.

Do not be taken in by the 'warm and cozy' posture taken - he is trying to win favour from sympathy from these boards - nothing more!

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:08 pm  

TRB wrote:

There is an expression though - you can't please all of the people all of the time - which sums this up. This guy will not be won over in a month of Sundays. That is not to say we don't listen - or more to the point those who are responsible for the decision do, but our job is clear - to make our case bullet proof going forward and no amount of us 'pampering' to his whims on here is going to change anything I'm afraid.
If he wants to argue against the scheme, as it seems, then I'm sure there will be plenty of advice around as to how to go about it. If he wants to make a difference to the scheme then again he can get advice from the relevant quarters.
This forum is here for the benefit of discussion on Rugby League related matters and not to pander to take much pleasure from the failure of this venture.
Do not be taken in by the 'warm and cozy' posture taken - he is trying to win favour from sympathy from these boards - nothing more!

sorry trb, I didn't realise you knew this individual.

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:12 pm  

Barry Clegg 2nd wrote:

But i am a fan so its not relevent, i will think for myself rather than have the thoughts mafia decide what i will think.

And he clearly is not and has the right to express his views, which he is doing.

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:15 pm  

He does have a right yes just like the anit progress nimbys who have just helped our cause with that horrendoes video. I would be surprised if this is not the same idiot who kicks up a stink at anything wakefield try to do. I take it i am allowed an opinion sir?

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:16 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

sorry trb, I didn't realise you knew this individual.

Don't be sorry - I merely meant to point out the risks.

I don't know the guy - I was 'profiling' based on details available. I genuinely feel though that they are now making the issue that of the industrial elements merely beacuse they feel that is weakest link. If there were no industrial elements, there would be some other element they didn't like - that's how it goes!

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:19 pm  

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:25 pm  

RDM wrote:

My first post was a response to what appeared to be a "reasonable" opposition to the proposals from someone who had no benefit coming from the proposals.

Unfortunately, your second post clearly shows you to be a fully paid up member of the NIMBY brigade and thus not open to a proper debate on the subject.

agreed

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:54 pm  

Without going into this too deeply, there is clearly an awful lot of benefits to Wakefield as a whole. The site will be developed now or in the near future due to it's location. Whilst nobody wants to see a development on their back yard, i would suggest those against think carefully before opposing such a development.

The land WILL be developed whether it's by Yorkcourt or another, and sometimes it's better to work as one to ensure all parties are happy. You never know what the next scheme maybe. I'd love to swap my view of the Toxic tip for Yorkcourt's proposal's!

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:19 pm  

Barry Clegg 2nd wrote:

He does have a right yes just like the anit progress nimbys who have just helped our cause with that horrendoes video. I would be surprised if this is not the same idiot who kicks up a stink at anything wakefield try to do. I take it i am allowed an opinion sir?

Yes sir you are sir, and so are they, if they are muppets they will hang them selves given enough rope, bit only if they are allowed to speak.
If someone was building in the fields near my house a bloody great mosque, or gay rollerdisco, or even worse the cas' ground, I would want to voice my opinion, however it would soon become clear that I was just being objectionable for the sake of it, one thing you can't halt is progress and because I don't own the fields, I don't really have that much clout, but I would still want to moan!!!

Re: The Problem With Newmarket : Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:20 pm  

I've just watched WCCG's video and left the following comment, which is waiting for one of their moderators to clear for publication - it will be interesting to see if it gets on!

Anyone that pays their road tax is allowed by law to park on the street unless parking is restricted. Having said that, I can see that this video makes the argument very well for locating the new stadium in a non-residential area with good transport links to minimise the disruption, The proposed site is as close to ideal as you could wish for, being on industrial land next to a very busy motorway. My personal preference would have been a City Stadium in Thornes Park, this would have made public transport a very real choice for many fans who will still travel by car to the new site - but at least they won't be blocking anyones drive!!

It would have been interesting to see the views of some of the local businesses in Agbrigg, particularly the corner shops / pubs.