Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:19 am  

Seems strange that we approve an idea that was dismissed a few months back, round about the same time as Sepp Blatter resigns, is he coming in as financial director to the RFL?

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:53 am  

Who judges whether a player is 'marquee' player?
One for WT may not fit that category at Wigan.
I thought the Salford owner has recently said that they weren't going to 'waste' money on big name players and he was the champion of this issue.

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:08 am  

PHe wrote:

Who judges whether a player is 'marquee' player?
One for WT may not fit that category at Wigan.
I thought the Salford owner has recently said that they weren't going to 'waste' money on big name players and he was the champion of this issue.

the price does, so if two or more clubs want to barter for one player his value goes up

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:36 am  

The idea is brought in for 2 main reasons.
Firstly to allow clubs to hang on to special players and secondly to allow the game to bring in "star" players.
Unfortunately, with the spending power of the bigger Union clubs and the massive disparity in the size of the salary cap in Australia, the likely result
is that we will overpay good players but, still not be able to attract superstars.
Mind you, at least Wigan will be able to cover Tomkins wages under the cap !

Mind you, IF we could attract some top names, it would give the game a boost, in terms of some decent publicity and create some additional interest
amongst the paying public.

We are now more likely than ever to see big name Aussies at the end of their respective careers, looking for a tasty contract to finish their careers in the UK.

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:46 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Unfortunately, with the spending power of the bigger Union clubs and the massive disparity in the size of the salary cap in Australia, the likely result
is that we will overpay good players but, still not be able to attract superstars.
Mind you, at least Wigan will be able to cover Tomkins wages under the cap !]We are now more likely than ever to see big name Aussies at the end of their respective careers, looking for a tasty contract to finish their careers in the UK.

BINGO. Sums it up perfectly.

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:18 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Mind you, at least Wigan will be able to cover Tomkins wages under the cap !
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Tomkins was brought in prior to this rule, so i'm presuming they can still bring another in.

Personally i would scrap the salary cap completely for all clubs that have a reasonable turnover. The cap should only apply to clubs who don't have the income to cover any greater spends.
Why should the likes of Wigan, Leeds etc not be able to spend what they want? Since it was introduced, it hasn't really levelled up the competition, and at the same time it hasn't stopped clubs over spending, as us and Bradford can testify!

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:26 am  

Tomkins may have been brought in prior to the rule but no reason why they can't make him the marquee player. His contract will be a very good one I'm sure and if they can cut that back to just £100k officially on the salary cap books then that will aid Wigan immensely to fit other players in that cap.

Whilst it's good that the game is trying to compete with the NRL, lets just swallow it and accept it that we never will. The money paid to players over there where the crowd numbers are far far far superior to what we have is always going to be a telling factor. But rugby (both codes) is Australia's main sporting event and we will never be able to compete with the salary's there in the same way Australia's football league teams won't be able to compete with the salary's that our Premier League teams pay either for exactly the same reason.

If we are to make our game better and try and close the gap, lets introduce this marquee ruling but for any team that uses it has to pay £100,000 into grass roots rugby in their specific rural area's to improve the game and facilities for the kids at a young age who eventually may well appear in a Super League shirt for one of the top teams.

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:08 am  

Roonaldo6 wrote:

If we are to make our game better and try and close the gap, lets introduce this marquee ruling but for any team that uses it has to pay £100,000 into grass roots rugby in their specific rural area's to improve the game and facilities for the kids at a young age who eventually may well appear in a Super League shirt for one of the top teams.

I've long talked about something along these lines - but it will never happen; the grassroots game is largely ignored by the RFL and SL clubs aren't interested until you have a team who are approaching the age that they can be signed on - then suddenly you spot mysterious men in long, SL club-badged coats, watching your matches and approaching parents in the car park after a game.

The grassroots game is in a dire situation, and without the largesse of parents and local businesses who sponsor kits, it would die a slow death. For mine, SL clubs should be compelled to be actively engaged with grassroots clubs in their catchment area, so that young players can be developed with at least some professional oversight, and the clubs themselves have some support to keep doing what they do without scratching round for resources all the time.

Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:56 am  

asmadasa wrote: Yet again the divide grows between the cash rich clubs and those struggling ones likeTrinity! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7291354 The way around that to some degree is to allow Koucash's suggestion of being able to purchase ONE more marquee spot from a club that can't afford it. Say £250k to Wakefield which helps them to buy 3 very good players, making them more competitive, as opposed to 1 marquee player. It also helps to move wealth around the game from those who have it to those who don't. Under the marquee rule there are a potential 12 spots available, that's 12 big news marketable stories that help sell the game and attract new sponsors, fans etc.. We would be stupid to restrict ourselves to just signing 8 because 4 clubs can't afford it.

asmadasa wrote: Yet again the divide grows between the cash rich clubs and those struggling ones likeTrinity! http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7291354 The way around that to some degree is to allow Koucash's suggestion of being able to purchase ONE more marquee spot from a club that can't afford it. Say £250k to Wakefield which helps them to buy 3 very good players, making them more competitive, as opposed to 1 marquee player. It also helps to move wealth around the game from those who have it to those who don't. Under the marquee rule there are a potential 12 spots available, that's 12 big news marketable stories that help sell the game and attract new sponsors, fans etc.. We would be stupid to restrict ourselves to just signing 8 because 4 clubs can't afford it.

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Re: Marquee Player Funding Approved : Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:02 am  

bren2k wrote:

I've long talked about something along these lines - but it will never happen; the grassroots game is largely ignored by the RFL and SL clubs aren't interested until you have a team who are approaching the age that they can be signed on - then suddenly you spot mysterious men in long, SL club-badged coats, watching your matches and approaching parents in the car park after a game.

The grassroots game is in a dire situation, and without the largesse of parents and local businesses who sponsor kits, it would die a slow death. For mine, SL clubs should be compelled to be actively engaged with grassroots clubs in their catchment area, so that young players can be developed with at least some professional oversight, and the clubs themselves have some support to keep doing what they do without scratching round for resources all the time.

You’re absolutely right bren. Until recently we never bothered much with the grassroots clubs in Bradford. Since we got John Bastian in that’s begun to change but there’s a very long way to go. I can’t believe that the club was so blasé about it in the past. I suspect that’s the case at many other clubs too. It’s taken the decline and fall of the team, two admin periods and relegation for us to properly reconnect with local clubs.