Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:02 am  

I can't answer your questions steady but you got me thinking there.
So far we have had no sense out of WMDC and Yorkcourt they're just straight batting us. The general consensus is that they're able to take this action because we're a small group without any backing to fight them in court. Could this be a bit of a game changer, could 88M have the backing to take them on? Or more pertinently would they want to take it on?
Just a thought.

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:03 am  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

This appears to be good news for the club & a well done is due to all those involved. Could I ask a couple of questions though:
Have the Trust now acquired ownership of the ground? If not can it still be a community facility? Are there to be any genuine community facilities on site or does this just resolve the stadium part of the problem? How reliant is the scheme on the NM developer & WMDC?
Also what is the current position regarding the other community facilities that were proposed for NM?
Please don't interpret this as bad blood/sour grapes as it really is not intended as such. The club & the community have been abused in my opinion and as a rate payer I'm genuinely interestedly in how this plays out. There has been a distinct lack of public information from all involved parties, some of whom have a duty, in my opinion, to let the public know what is, or has been, happening.

Don't know just glad our City is hopefully getting a stadium.

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:12 am  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

This appears to be good news for the club & a well done is due to all those involved. Could I ask a couple of questions though:
Have the Trust now acquired ownership of the ground?
I'd guess not, 88M have

If not can it still be a community facility?
I'd think not

Are there to be any genuine community facilities on site or does this just resolve the stadium part of the problem?
Not a clue


How reliant is the scheme on the NM developer & WMDC?
Everything depends on them.

Also what is the current position regarding the other community facilities that were proposed for NM?
That would probably be part of the deal

Please don't interpret this as bad blood/sour grapes as it really is not intended as such. The club & the community have been abused in my opinion and as a rate payer I'm genuinely interestedly in how this plays out. There has been a distinct lack of public information from all involved parties, some of whom have a duty, in my opinion, to let the public know what is, or has been, happening.

No inside info but just my opinions.

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:22 am  

Steady, I hear there will be a small carp pond for visiting anglers

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:23 am  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

This appears to be good news for the club & a well done is due to all those involved. Could I ask a couple of questions though:
Have the Trust now acquired ownership of the ground? If not can it still be a community facility? Are there to be any genuine community facilities on site or does this just resolve the stadium part of the problem? How reliant is the scheme on the NM developer & WMDC?
Also what is the current position regarding the other community facilities that were proposed for NM?
Please don't interpret this as bad blood/sour grapes as it really is not intended as such. The club & the community have been abused in my opinion and as a rate payer I'm genuinely interestedly in how this plays out. There has been a distinct lack of public information from all involved parties, some of whom have a duty, in my opinion, to let the public know what is, or has been, happening.

The proposals involve the Stadium Trust acquiring the land and stadium from 88m Group so it will be owned by a Community Trust not the Club so will be a Community Stadium. The other facilities proposed at Newmarket are proposed still to be provided there. The scheme is totally dependant on the Council and the NM Developer supporting the proposals. All they have to do is just deliver what they promised the people of Wakefield and the Secretary of State at the Public Inquiry.

The proposal is a "win, win" for all involved.

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:32 am  

Sandal Cat wrote:

The proposals involve the Stadium Trust acquiring the land and stadium from 88m Group so it will be owned by a Community Trust not the Club so will be a Community Stadium. The other facilities proposed at Newmarket are proposed still to be provided there. The scheme is totally dependant on the Council and the NM Developer supporting the proposals. All they have to do is just deliver what they promised the people of Wakefield and the Secretary of State at the Public Inquiry.

The proposal is a "win, win" for all involved.

So, without wanting to put a dampener on what sounds like a good step forward...

The proposals involve the Stadium Trust acquiring the land and stadium from 88m Group

Who pays for that? The NM Developer?? Surely 88M will not be looking to sell at a loss and bearing in mind we were told that Yorkcourt were in the bidding for the land from BOI - why would they now pay more than 88M did?

All they have to do is just deliver what they promised the people of Wakefield and the Secretary of State at the Public Inquiry

ALL ?? Considering what they've done so far that's a pretty big 3 letter word!

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:35 am  

Obviously good news for the club again, but I've got to admit I'm now in the "I'll believe it when I'm stood in it brigade" & I'm sure I won't be the only one.

This has come totally out of the blue for me & I'm trying to get my head round what the 88m developers will get out of spending cash on Belle Vue other than us being tied into a lengthy lease with a heft rent? Just asking...

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:39 am  

bellycouldtackle wrote:

Terrible news was looking forward to watching us play at Dewsbury which is a much better ground in every respect than BV.

Well why don't you go their and watch Dewsbury - it's not like you enjoy watching Trinity is it

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:43 am  

Sandal Cat wrote:

The proposals involve the Stadium Trust acquiring the land and stadium from 88m Group so it will be owned by a Community Trust not the Club so will be a Community Stadium. The other facilities proposed at Newmarket are proposed still to be provided there. The scheme is totally dependant on the Council and the NM Developer supporting the proposals. All they have to do is just deliver what they promised the people of Wakefield and the Secretary of State at the Public Inquiry.

The proposal is a "win, win" for all involved.

Thanks for the genuine answers people, I appreciate the effort and honesty. As I say I'm from the district so makes no sense in me being anti community facilities as I want the area to thrive. I won't lie I don't think NM ever was or will be a good location for community facilities of any kind (if love to be proved wrong though), in the same way that I think the current proposal for the new Cas ground (MK 5 now I think)! Is the right location either. I hate the way big business thinks it can pat communities on their heads with the promise of facilities etc while all the time fleecing them at the same time.

Re: Ground : Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:44 am  

Fordy wrote:

So, without wanting to put a dampener on what sounds like a good step forward...

Who pays for that? The NM Developer?? Surely 88M will not be looking to sell at a loss and bearing in mind we were told that Yorkcourt were in the bidding for the land from BOI - why would they now pay more than 88M did?

ALL ?? Considering what they've done so far that's a pretty big 3 letter word!

The Developer will have to provide the funding to make the stadium happen.

If he doesn't it looks like the legal route will have to be taken but at least for the time being we are looking on the positive side.