Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:32 pm  

arliebird wrote:

i was very unclear on what all the new annoucements was and was just making the point to get a clearer picture of things, dint realise that andrew glover was willing to fund a redevelopment with the chance that the club could well be moving well done andrew glover

Hopefully now the cat is well amongst the pigeons at Red Hall

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:33 pm  

Just read 23 pages and I'm seriously wondering what people were expecting. I think the problem was that there had been so much speculation on here that expectation were raised into expecting eveything from Steve Parkin coming in with millions to a new ground going to materialise out of nowhere at Silkwood Park.

The problem is if you believe in rumours and fairy tales you invariably are disappoined.

Lets think about it. 6 months ago we did not have a Club or a pot to piddle in. We had no future whatsoever, the previous regime has all but finished it. Most people on here said they would be happy if they had a Club to support, whatever division it competed in, as long as we had Wakefield Trinity then we would be happy. What short memories some have.

We now have a Club and a chance of playing in Super League from 2012 to 2015.

It was made clear that we need 5,000 members in order to satisfy the RFL. We have 3,000 and clearly that figure has not risen. Hence the announcement of the 1873 Club which is aimed to push membership over the magical 5,000 figure - thus ticking one of those all important boxes.

Also we have a stadium that is non compliant so the announcement that Belle Vue will be improved to 12,000 capacity with 8,000 I think it was under cover thus almost making it fully SL compliant and better than some other Stadiums that are expected to get a franchise.

These improvements will be temporary so no one is spending £m's. Who owns Belle Vue ? - Does it matter, no, if we have a lease then what's the problem. Are these improvements in the SL Application - yes. Do we need planning permission - not if they are temporary structures. When will they be done - ready for the start of SL 2012 (assuming we get a franchise).

Only the next 6 to 8 weeks is going to judge whether Andrew Glover has pulled a rabbit out of the hat or not but I feel he has pulled a flanker but we'll have to see. One thing is for sure if we had not had a change of ownership we would have 2 chances of a franchise - a dogs chance and no chance.

Most important announcement in the Club's history ? We will know at the end of July but it just might turn out to be.

We still have a Club with a good chance of a francise and its in all our hands. You can contine to bitch about this and do nothing or you can continue the fight, join the 1873 Club and support the Club in its fight for a franchise.

I would not try to tell anyone what to do - the choice is yours - do what you see fit.

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:34 pm  

It is a new regime and Plans should not be treated in contempt because of a previous regime promise/ promises that have not materialised.

Glover has delivered all he said he would so far albeit many things on a smaller scale but that sends out positive indications.

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:37 pm  

Roverswall wrote:

With the greatest of respect guys this sounds like another Wakey 'We will build it honest guv' situation.
I hope i'm wrong but as soon as I read the web article my first thought was 'Yeah right!'.
I hope it happens but there is every chance the RFL will just ignore it because of your previous.

Have to agree with this.

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:37 pm  

Thought that Alf was good saying in public that expansion is wrong.

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:38 pm  

Just got back and trying to get caught up on here

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

That reads that it will be completed, maybe it is in the Licence bid, if so, it gives us a damn sight more chance than at any time since N.M was pulled in.

In the second meeting it was implied that they can still add to the application due to the limited time between take over and the deadline, hence the push for 5000.

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:40 pm  

inside man wrote:

as well as managing not to mickey off all the fans who didn't get in.

If you didn't 'get in' then that was only down to you not being willing to wait. They booked the biggest venue in Wakefield and more fans than expected turned up!

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:41 pm  

Sandal Cat wrote:

Just read 23 pages and I'm seriously wondering what people were expecting. I think the problem was that there had been so much speculation on here that expectation were raised into expecting eveything from Steve Parkin coming in with millions to a new ground going to materialise out of nowhere at Silkwood Park.

The problem is if you believe in rumours and fairy tales you invariably are disappoined.

Lets think about it. 6 months ago we did not have a Club or a pot to piddle in. We had no future whatsoever, the previous regime has all but finished it. Most people on here said they would be happy if they had a Club to support, whatever division it competed in, as long as we had Wakefield Trinity then we would be happy. What short memories some have.

We now have a Club and a chance of playing in Super League from 2012 to 2015.

It was made clear that we need 5,000 members in order to satisfy the RFL. We have 3,000 and clearly that figure has not risen. Hence the announcement of the 1873 Club which is aimed to push membership over the magical 5,000 figure - thus ticking one of those all important boxes.

Also we have a stadium that is non compliant so the announcement that Belle Vue will be improved to 12,000 capacity with 8,000 I think it was under cover thus almost making it fully SL compliant and better than some other Stadiums that are expected to get a franchise.

These improvements will be temporary so no one is spending £m's. Who owns Belle Vue ? - Does it matter, no, if we have a lease then what's the problem. Are these improvements in the SL Application - yes. Do we need planning permission - not if they are temporary structures. When will they be done - ready for the start of SL 2012 (assuming we get a franchise).

Only the next 6 to 8 weeks is going to judge whether Andrew Glover has pulled a rabbit out of the hat or not but I feel he has pulled a flanker but we'll have to see. One thing is for sure if we had not had a change of ownership we would have 2 chances of a franchise - a dogs chance and no chance.

Most important announcement in the Club's history ? We will know at the end of July but it just might turn out to be.

We still have a Club with a good chance of a francise and its in all our hands. You can contine to bitch about this and do nothing or you can continue the fight, join the 1873 Club and support the Club in its fight for a franchise.

I would not try to tell anyone what to do - the choice is yours - do what you see fit.

I can't do <snip> but that sums it up for me.
do nothing and we are shot, have a go and who knows.

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:41 pm  

Mr Slithers wrote:

Just got back and trying to get caught up on here

In the second meeting it was implied that they can still add to the application due to the limited time between take over and the deadline, hence the push for 5000.

Come on every one get it signed

Re: NEWS FROM TONIGHT'S BIG MEETING : Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:42 pm  

Maybe the £750K is the purchase price to buy back Belle Vue?

Second part of this announcement is the temporary development of our existing ground to satisfy the RFL in the short term pending our move to NM.

Something I posted earlier in the week and I was happy with this then just as I am now!