Re: Belle Vue back on? : Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:52 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

All I hear is Belle Vue is a depressing place and their families won't come anymore..

Tell them to turn round, face the pitch, and watch the Rugby. How could anyone be depressed at Belle Vue last season?

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:18 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Tell them to turn round, face the pitch, and watch the Rugby. How could anyone be depressed at Belle Vue last season?

That's part of the problem they weren't there last season to watch.......or for that matter the season before.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:19 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Tell them to turn round, face the pitch, and watch the Rugby. How could anyone be depressed at Belle Vue last season?

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:29 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Tell them to turn round, face the pitch, and watch the Rugby. How could anyone be depressed at Belle Vue last season?

I agree, however I think that's only going to wash so far. Trying to entice new fans to buy season tickets based on one decent season is another thing. Belle Vue is always going to put people off the state it's in at the moment, like it or not....unless we do something amazing and win some silverware.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:53 pm  

To be honest, have the facilities ever really been good at Belle Vue? Ok we had the south stand for a while and whilst the atmosphere in there was pretty electric at times it was still a freezing cold place. The old woodworm riddled west stand wasn't much cop either, but you never seemed to hear people moan. Wollo Wollo got it right when he suggested that people turn round and watch the game. I know it's a bit of a cliche but Belle Vue must be one of, if not, the best playing surfaces in the game. Ok, so spectators may get a bit wet but so what. If the final product looks anything like the architect's impression I'll be more than happy. Have spectators become softer in recent years?

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:25 pm  

Redscat wrote:

To be honest, have the facilities ever really been good at Belle Vue? Ok we had the south stand for a while and whilst the atmosphere in there was pretty electric at times it was still a freezing cold place. The old woodworm riddled west stand wasn't much cop either, but you never seemed to hear people moan. Wollo Wollo got it right when he suggested that people turn round and watch the game. I know it's a bit of a cliche but Belle Vue must be one of, if not, the best playing surfaces in the game. Ok, so spectators may get a bit wet but so what. If the final product looks anything like the architect's impression I'll be more than happy. Have spectators become softer in recent years?

Whilst I agree with you that the game is the most important thing, there should be a reasonable stadium to watch the game take place.
Without wishing to be disrespectful to either, we're not talking about Stanley Rangers v Eastmoor. Trinity are a top flight professional RL club and we should strive to have the best facilities in the competition and not be trying to "get away" with a crumbling victorian ground.
The terracing is an utter disgrace, with lumps and holes in it and IF we had a new ground and were visiting any other club with a ground like BV, we'd be moaning like hell, with comments of "I'm not going there, it's a right dump".
Surely we should want the best and not be "happy" with the worst ground in SL.
Having said that, I'd take terracing over seating all day long, at least you're not up and down every 2 minutes because someone either wants a beer or, cant hold the one they've just had.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:09 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Whilst I agree with you that the game is the most important thing, there should be a reasonable stadium to watch the game take place.
Without wishing to be disrespectful to either, we're not talking about Stanley Rangers v Eastmoor. Trinity are a top flight professional RL club and we should strive to have the best facilities in the competition and not be trying to "get away" with a crumbling victorian ground.
The terracing is an utter disgrace, with lumps and holes in it and IF we had a new ground and were visiting any other club with a ground like BV, we'd be moaning like hell, with comments of "I'm not going there, it's a right dump".
Surely we should want the best and not be "happy" with the worst ground in SL.
Having said that, I'd take terracing over seating all day long, at least you're not up and down every 2 minutes because someone either wants a beer or, cant hold the one they've just had.

Yeah! I agree with you wrencat. I was just trying to illustrate that we've never had the best of grounds, but have been quite happy to put up with what we've had. Hence I'm not personally bothered about a Headingly type super stadium, but would settle for something like the images that were released (with standing provision). Perhaps I'm easily satisfied.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:19 pm  

Tbf it's combo of poor results (not last season) and rubbish facilities

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:43 am  

Redscat wrote:

To be honest, have the facilities ever really been good at Belle Vue? Ok we had the south stand for a while and whilst the atmosphere in there was pretty electric at times it was still a freezing cold place. The old woodworm riddled west stand wasn't much cop either, but you never seemed to hear people moan. Wollo Wollo got it right when he suggested that people turn round and watch the game. I know it's a bit of a cliche but Belle Vue must be one of, if not, the best playing surfaces in the game. Ok, so spectators may get a bit wet but so what. If the final product looks anything like the architect's impression I'll be more than happy. Have spectators become softer in recent years?

Nah not in my lifetime have the facilities been any good but they've gradually deteriorated around us. What makes Belle Vue look all the worse is that all other clubs, apart from Cas & us have all sorted their grounds out one way or the other and that just makes ours seem all the worse than what it did say 20 years ago when all RL stadia was severely aging. I don't think spectators have become soft but a poor ground and 3 decent seasons in 18 and a lot of awful ones in betweeen and people find other things to do.

People today when they spend their money expect a nice place to stand that isn't crumbling underfoot, or a decent seat with a good view, as well as all the other modern facilities that come with a Stadium built in the last 15 years or less. What's even more important is I don't think the RFL will be accepting of our stadium in the next couple of years, that's why it's so important that this latest plan comes off.

Tbh Wollo didn't get it right saying just turn around and watch the game when those people aren't even there to do so. I think the people that turn up nowadays to watch Trinity accept the state of the ground for the sake of watching RL.

I've said the same as you before, that if the ground looks anything like the artists' impression and we also get the right terms to prosper as a club, I'd be over the moon. Saying that if that happens it will still leave a sour taste in my mouth when the team will probably still have to go up to Featherstone to train. Plus Yorkcourt gets away without building anything that the Community can truly use themselves.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:39 am  

I really don't see anything being built myself, but, people mention not having community facilities because BV is too small. Ok then perfect world scenario , BV gets a complete facelift, community facilities could quite easily be built at Newmarket, the ground and community facilities don't need to be built together do they?