Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:13 pm  

If we lose fans who won't travel to the other side of the city on principal, then it's a sorry state of affairs and we get what we deserve. Do we want a new stadium or what?! I'm pretty sure measures would be put in place to help as many fans as possible to get there on match days. Anyway, Newmarket is pie in the sky. I don't believe for a minute that it will happen in my lifetime.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:14 pm  

I know it's academic, but we can say as a guarantee that things would not get worse at a better version of Belle Vue. It's almost an impossibility. The Salford experience suggests we cannot guarantee it at Newmarket.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:25 pm  

Should Newmarket happen, and those not willing to go in cars, how about the club, try to work with Arriva or local travel companies, maybe as like a partnership.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:28 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

Newmarket is pie in the sky. I don't believe for a minute that it will happen in my lifetime.

Yes it is - as is an altruistic gesture by 88M at BV, where he gives up land that would otherwise generate revenue, to ensure that the club has everything it needs. This whole thing is a stitch-up job, and anyone who doesn't see that is either unrealistically positive, or hopelessly naïve. WT will get the bare minimum - I guarantee it.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:32 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Yes it is - as is an altruistic gesture by 88M at BV, where he gives up land that would otherwise generate revenue, to ensure that the club has everything it needs. This whole thing is a stitch-up job, and anyone who doesn't see that is either unrealistically positive, or hopelessly naïve. WT will get the bare minimum - I guarantee it.

Unfortunately, I have to agree. Which begs me to ask the question (again), why have we aborted legal action....the only person that truly knows is MC. But understand if he can't comment

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:53 pm  

I would have gone to NM (reluctantly) but BV suits me all day long and I'll be happy with a good enough job done to keep us in SL.
That does not mean I condone all the cheating that's gone on with this business and those responsible should be brought to task - but I think nothing will be done.
As for BV I'm firmly in the 'I'll believe it when I see it camp'.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:40 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Yes it is - as is an altruistic gesture by 88M at BV, where he gives up land that would otherwise generate revenue, to ensure that the club has everything it needs. This whole thing is a stitch-up job, and anyone who doesn't see that is either unrealistically positive, or hopelessly naïve. WT will get the bare minimum - I guarantee it.

Wasn’t it mooted that in return for mani allowing the redevelopment of bv he was to receive a piece of council land elsewhere for
Development..ie thornes park ?.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:45 pm  

Just a thought, but maybe a deal is that the land Manni gives up to redevelop Belle Vue is compensated by giving him land at Newmarket off York Court? That way the time pressure is taken off York Court a little bit and we can all move forward. Complete speculation on my part but I could see how it would help all concerned with the 2020 redevelopment target.

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:00 pm  

wildshot wrote:

Just a thought, but maybe a deal is that the land Manni gives up to redevelop Belle Vue is compensated by giving him land at Newmarket off York Court? That way the time pressure is taken off York Court a little bit and we can all move forward. Complete speculation on my part but I could see how it would help all concerned with the 2020 redevelopment target.

There has to be a deal somewhere that could suit all parties, the problem is I don’t think anyone trusts anyone else! I.e if we give them this will they do x ....
too many self interested people who won’t come together to make this work

Re: Belle Vue back on? : Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:04 pm  

Wakefield No 1 wrote:

There has to be a deal somewhere that could suit all parties, the problem is I don’t think anyone trusts anyone else! I.e if we give them this will they do x ....
too many self interested people who won’t come together to make this work

I'll give 88m one thing the stadium is still the lead story on their website so kudos for at least looking interested