Re: first team players : Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:52 pm  

I believe these are the changes to our squad

OUT
Riley
Collis
Tim Smith
Lauitiiti
Washbrook
Kirke
Trout
Kavanagh
Daniel Smith
McShane
Locke
Walker
Mulally
Lee Smith
Tupou
Moore
Paea

ADDED
Howarth
Sio
Tansey
Yates
Finn
England
Gibson
Shulver
Morris

I admit this may not be the definitive list but it is the best I could come up with however I guess it shows we have a long way to go with either our player retention and recruitment.

Re: first team players : Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:42 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I believe these are the changes to our squad

OUT
Riley
Collis
Tim Smith
Lauitiiti
Washbrook
Kirke
Trout
Kavanagh
Daniel Smith
McShane
Locke
Walker
Mulally
Lee Smith
Tupou
Moore
Paea

ADDED
Howarth
Sio
Tansey
Yates
Finn
England
Gibson
Shulver
Morris

I admit this may not be the definitive list but it is the best I could come up with however I guess it shows we have a long way to go with either our player retention and recruitment.

Eleven out of those seventeen didn't really contribute to the final equation.
Although in your eyes we may have a long way to go with player retention and recruitment, the new season is still way off.
Have a bit of faith, rather than picking fault at every opportunity.

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:34 am  

I'd like to see Tupou kept on and be our own big strong winger. May not have blistering pace but will do really well getting us on the front foot coming out of our half. There is certainly some big money (for us) off the wage bill now collis tim smith and Ali are off the books. Recruitment no where near finished IMO

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:38 am  

FickleFingerOfFate wrote:

Eleven out of those seventeen didn't really contribute to the final equation.
Although in your eyes we may have a long way to go with player retention and recruitment, the new season is still way off.
Have a bit of faith, rather than picking fault at every opportunity.

Out of the 17 players mentioned, 5 of those Moore, L Smith, Walker, Kavanagh, and Mulalley weren't even our players, Paea, Collis and Sammut are long gone Locke was only a short term deal and Smith was sacked, McShane, D Smith, and Washbrook have been transfered.
So realistically we are only looking at 5 players, out of those if Trout or Kirke get a new contract I'll show my arriss on the town hall steps, so not forgetting Godinet that just leaves Riley, Ali and Topou needing to be sorted out, so as you point out there is little or no point panicking just yet, unless of course it's in one's nature to consistantly try and cause unrest in the camp.

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:03 pm  

I will say again that the list represents the squad used last season regardless of if they were on loan or signed, they need to be replaced. What does it matter if they were on short term deals they are not here now and will need to be replaced.
We have lost a chunk of very experienced and one presumes expensive players so we should have a lot of salary available. I wait to see how we spend this on and who we sign considering we hope to be near the full cap this season.
I sadly lack your gullibility when it comes to Wakefield Trinity and am not happy to accept another season of mediocrity despite this being an improvement on what we endured.

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:12 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I will say again that the list represents the squad used last season regardless of if they were on loan or signed, they need to be replaced. What does it matter if they were on short term deals they are not here now and will need to be replaced.
We have lost a chunk of very experienced and one presumes expensive players so we should have a lot of salary available. I wait to see how we spend this on and who we sign considering we hope to be near the full cap this season.
I sadly lack your gullibility when it comes to Wakefield Trinity and am not happy to accept another season of mediocrity despite this being an improvement on what we endured.

100 percent agree with this post , at moment we have announced half a dozen players - who in the main are squad players or relatively unproven , let's hope the next few signings add some genuine class to the squad . At the moment it's not exactly inspiring

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:02 pm  

Heard four new signings this coming week , if their not top four quality players I'll stick my kneck out now and say next season will be same as

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:04 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I will say again that the list represents the squad used last season regardless of if they were on loan or signed, they need to be replaced. What does it matter if they were on short term deals they are not here now and will need to be replaced.

You can say it as many times as you want it won't alter anything, you failed to mention Godinet in your list making that 18 players, you also failed not surprisingly to mention Annakin from your list of signings making 10 in all, subtract that from the 18 that have either left or not re-signed leaving 8 players, 5 of those 8 are off contract when this season runs out, so can we take your word for it that these 5 will not be offered new terms or is that just another presumption on your part.

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

We have lost a chunk of very experienced and one presumes expensive players so we should have a lot of salary available. I wait to see how we spend this on and who we sign considering we hope to be near the full cap this season.

Just out of curiosity how privvy are you to the financial dealings of the club, do you know who our new signings are, nah didn't think so on that basis how can you presume to know how expensive they are, or are you just guessing.

scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I sadly lack your gullibility when it comes to Wakefield Trinity and am not happy to accept another season of mediocrity despite this being an improvement on what we endured.

Not sure why you should feel sad about my gullibility regarding Wakefield Trinity, I make no secret of my ignorance of the inside dealings of the club and don't presume anything, preferring to wait until announcements are made instead of spreading false rumours and making silly presumptions, and if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion, if your not happy with your lot at Belle Vue you could always go and watch Eastmoor, the problem there is if you did you'd have something to moan about

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:14 pm  

Listen gullible I did not mention Godinet because it is currently not out and why would I mention Annakin unless use are referring to the new Star Wars because he is not a new signing and was not referred to in my out list.
I have based my assumptions on what MC said in that the salary had been reduced following the release of several players and that was before the sacking of Smith and Locke.
I am not spreading false rumour the list of players both out and in is accurate. The statement regarding the salary cap was made by MC so please enlighten us oh gullible one what false rumours am I spreading or is it that your gullibility does not allow for any dissenting voice.

Re: first team players : Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:19 pm  

As you did not mention Eastmoor, can one assume that won't be happening then