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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:00 pm  
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Your double-negative tomfoolery has created a rift in the space-time continuum that could cause the entire forum to disappear in a puff of logic; clarify your position quickly, and you may just rescue the situation..!


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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:01 pm  
Coach A thinks he can make Ben a better player and keeps him. Thats a fair call.

Coach B does not feel its going to happen and lets him go. Thats a fair call.

Or we can do it the Wakey way and not offer him a decent deal and let him leave before we have a coach in place (who's call is it) now to me thats not how we should be doing it imo.

In the meantime we'll carry on paying Hickey more money.
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:13 pm  
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Time will tell I suppose. Not offering Fox enough came back to bite us on the backside. He was a young lad who had shown potential for a year and we wouldn't match what another club had offered. Two years later he was playing for England. The same may not happen with Gledhill of course and it may be another Southernwood situation. But it probably means we will need to find another prop for the squad now while Trout & Spiers continue to develop as Gledhill was physically ahead of these two. Bearing in mind we needed another prop even if Ben had stayed then with whats available on the market Nick Fozzard becomes a possibility all of a sudden and that is a scary thought.


He's somewhere in-between for me, so to compare him to either is just wrong.
Fox was a first team regular showing much promise on a regular basis, Gledhill isn't really at that level.
Southernwood thought he was better than he was and he got the Bulls to think that as well.
The Gledhill that burst onto the scene for us was a very exciting prospect but seems to have got lost somewhere.
A few enlightened posters have mentioned physical development or lack of it in some of our younger players, it will be interesting to see how Ben develops at Salford and indeed if things change here post JK.
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:16 pm  
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Coach A thinks he can make Ben a better player and keeps him. Thats a fair call.

Coach B does not feel its going to happen and lets him go. Thats a fair call.

Or we can do it the Wakey way and not offer him a decent deal and let him leave before we have a coach in place (who's call is it) now to me thats not how we should be doing it imo.

In the meantime we'll carry on paying Hickey more money.


:CLAP: I will say is that Gledhill had a fantastic debut and I think we were all a bit guilty of doing a bit of a Westerman on him. Now it's hard to tell if he is actually worth a better deal or not.

That said it should be the new coaches choice, but to be fair Al that's assuming the player or his agent isn't pushing it quicker than the club can manage.
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:20 pm  
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:CLAP: I will say is that Gledhill had a fantastic debut and I think we were all a bit guilty of doing a bit of a Westerman on him. Now it's hard to tell if he is actually worth a better deal or not.
That said it should be the new coaches choice, but to be fair Al that's assuming the player or his agent isn't pushing it quicker than the club can manage.



Yep.

Yep.

Of course and its never black and white, its just such a shame to be in this situation and be plugging 1873 at the same time.
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:35 pm  
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Yep.

Yep.

Of course and its never black and white, its just such a shame to be in this situation and be plugging 1873 at the same time.

I think it's a bit unfair to bring 1873 into it.
1. It's only just started
2. We don't know the circumstances of him leaving
3. Would 1873 money even go on contacts for "established"/existing players?
I have to say IMO I'm not sure he was worth keeping hold of, we have others in a similar potential bracket, I accept it would be nice to keep hold of everyone, but out of this years squad there are going to be quite a few making room for the new signings, and in the hard nosed world of developing in SL that's as it should be.
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:25 pm  
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Wakefield has always and will continue to produce talented youngster through the academy and in Ben's case develop young lads from surrounding clubs. We can't always keep them all, whether that's down to money, picking order or potential we don't know.

But, Ben's departure will open the door for the likes of Trout et al. I do feel for him, because i think he has an awful lot of potential which i believe will be unlocked under Parish.

This is way we must take our time with the Head Coach appointment. We must ensure we have someone whose paramout concern is establishing a pathway from academy to first team. The academy is filled with talented lads, but we must unlock that potential.

Good post, yes we do pick up top juniors and the new head coach needs to ensure those juniors develop and progress and realise their early potential. Shame if we lose the likes of Gledhill and Trout and end up paying over the odds for ageing alternatives
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:29 pm  
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He's somewhere in-between for me, so to compare him to either is just wrong.
Fox was a first team regular showing much promise on a regular basis, Gledhill isn't really at that level.
Southernwood thought he was better than he was and he got the Bulls to think that as well.
The Gledhill that burst onto the scene for us was a very exciting prospect but seems to have got lost somewhere.
A few enlightened posters have mentioned physical development or lack of it in some of our younger players, it will be interesting to see how Ben develops at Salford and indeed if things change here post JK.

Gledhill cannot be compared to Fox as he was not played and allowed to develop in the same way as Fox. We have to look at why he got lost and why he has felt the need to move on
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:54 pm  
For me Ben didn't do himself any favors, I said when he made that stunning debut that it was the best debut of a youngster in a Wakey shirt, even more impressive the fact he is a forrad. Takes a lot to live up to a debut like that, think we have missed the boat with him now, should have spent the whole of the last year in the championship playing better opposition.
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Re: Looks like : Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:09 pm  
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Gledhill cannot be compared to Fox as he was not played and allowed to develop in the same way as Fox. We have to look at why he got lost and why he has felt the need to move on

Quite right.
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