: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:03 pm  

i8no-one wrote:

The cost to the police to test pi55 after a person requests a test by not giving breath is £120. They are only looking for booze, the WADA test is for everything known to man, roids, coke, weed, e's, and the list goes on with god knows how many meds that are banned.

I liked Hock, and do not put his performance down to a sniff, a very good player, with the brain the size of a microscopic pond life dweller !

Very good, very ugly, and now very very dumb.

I also agree with jonh, this is a big problem not just in our game, but at evry level of sport.

Not just a problem in the game, but in society!! This is probably not the place, but it is rife between the age of 18 to 35........and anybody the goes out regularly, and if they know what to look for can see it!!!

The price of a 'gram' is now not considered overly expensive, can get it as ‘cheap’ as £25

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:06 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

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Not just a problem in the game, but in society!! This is probably not the place, but it is rife between the age of 18 to 35........and anybody the goes out regularly, and if they know what to look for can see it!!!

The price of a 'gram' is now not considered overly expensive, can get it as ‘cheap’ as £25

I don't see it myself but my lads have told me some stories about clubs and the like, its shocking, just glad i'm over 35

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm  

BIGAL1 wrote:

I don't see it myself but my lads have told me some stories about clubs and the like, its shocking, just glad i'm over 35

Ha......18 to 35 was just an average.......but in truth its not just clubs.....have been out in most pubs in Rothwell in Leeds and can see it in them all!!!!

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:17 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

Ha......18 to 35 was just an average.......but in truth its not just clubs.....have been out in most pubs in Rothwell in Leeds and can see it in them all!!!!

Ha ha i'm well past 35 anyway

I don't get out much but if anyone offered me anything they would get a LARGE slap

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:58 pm  

BIGAL1 wrote:

I don't see it myself but my lads have told me some stories about clubs and the like, its shocking, just glad i'm over 35

Mate from my experience it is all clubs to a greater or lesser extent.

Regards how you solve it, its an old chestnut but education is in my opinion the only way. I have seen lads who have confirmed to me they have been on the stuff on a Friday/Saturday, tested at training on a Monday and pass.


The biggest problem is within most junior set ups but those that go unpinished obviously continue this through into first team.

I have no doubt that the influx of Australians into our game has increased the lads participation in this, it is rife in the NRL but also our game is a reflection of society generally sadly.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:03 pm  

jonh wrote:

Mate from my experience it is all clubs to a greater or lesser extent.

Regards how you solve it, its an old chestnut but education is in my opinion the only way. I have seen lads who have confirmed to me they have been on the stuff on a Friday/Saturday, tested at training on a Monday and pass.


The biggest problem is within most junior set ups but those that go unpinished obviously continue this through into first team.

I have no doubt that the influx of Australians into our game has increased the lads participation in this, it is rife in the NRL but also our game is a reflection of society generally sadly.

Proven that it does not work. It's been taught in schools for many years and people still turn a blind eye to what they have been taught and still use drugs.


Some people learn from there first time and never use it again and some just get hooked on them.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:57 pm  

jonh wrote:

I have no doubt that the influx of Australians into our game has increased the lads participation in this, it is rife in the NRL but also our game is a reflection of society generally sadly.

I cant agree with this I am afraid at all, it has been a drug used in england socialy since the late 80s and was first mostly used in places like london - it has since made its way up north so has nothing to do with overseas players at all

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:58 pm  

adam9641 wrote:

Some people learn from there first time and never use it again and some just get hooked on them.

We are talking about cocaine here not heroin it is not a drug that is proven to be addictive it is more a problem of been used socially with friends, i would bet most players using it do so with people who are not even in the profession

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:01 pm  

wakeytom wrote:

I cant agree with this I am afraid at all, it has been a drug used in england socialy since the late 80s and was first mostly used in places like london - it has since made its way up north so has nothing to do with overseas players at all

thats right mate dont put blame on others if these cheats and idiots think they can get away with it they will imoi would ban them for life get them out of the game

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:01 pm  

adam9641 wrote:

Proven that it does not work. It's been taught in schools for many years and people still turn a blind eye to what they have been taught and still use drugs.


Some people learn from there first time and never use it again and some just get hooked on them.

Problem is that generally those doing the educating know less than those they are trying to educate. It is no use telling kids that all drugs are bad and evil and make you sick/ill or kill you when all around them they see people having a seemingly great and safe time using them.