[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:55 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Anderson joins Saints as coach and the first person he ships out is Gleeson. Smith joins Wolves as coach and the first person he ships out is Gleeson. There is a theme developing.

FAIL!!!

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:22 pm  

Tony Catsmith wrote:

FAIL!!!

Am I wrong? I was going purely from memory that Anderson took over towards the end of that season, after the betting thing, which was under Millward, and that Gleeson went at the end of that season.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:13 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Am I wrong? I was going purely from memory that Anderson took over towards the end of that season, after the betting thing, which was under Millward, and that Gleeson went at the end of that season.

misery guts took over from fishgob about third of way into 05, gleeson left saints halfway through 2004.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:49 pm  

Tony Catsmith wrote:

misery guts took over from fishgob about third of way into 05, gleeson left saints halfway through 2004.

Maybe you're right. My memory ain't what it used to be, although I do remember that his departure was connected with Saints treating their own fans with contempt by sending the reserves to the Bulls, and have now saddled the whole of Super League with the hassle of naming their squad so many hours before the game.

Aah, Super Saints!!

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:30 am  

jonh wrote:

Difference is I am usually right

If only that were true.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:33 am  

jonh wrote:

:lol:

Can you name a centre who has been in the top 20 in SL for the last 3 seasons in Try Assists, Offloads and Clean Breaks and (whose winger has been in the top 20 for Tries) in 2006, 2007 and 2008?

Certainly not what you would call going through the motions in my opinion.

It is an interesting signing and fills a void at Wigan that has needed filling for the last few years.

He is clearly not without his bagage but he looks in the best shape he has been in for some time and was one of the few players that could walk away from the World Cup without any shame.

Simply to get rid of Mathers is a great boost for Wigan.

The same could be said of Fielden when you signed him, and there lays Wigans big problem - every signing you make is in the past tense. I'm not suggesting Gleeson will be awful, I'm suggesting that Saints and Warrington saw the best of him some years ago and the only way now is down.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:19 am  

jonh wrote:

:lol:

Can you name a centre who has been in the top 20 in SL for the last 3 seasons in Try Assists, Offloads and Clean Breaks and (whose winger has been in the top 20 for Tries) in 2006, 2007 and 2008?

In a couple of months' time you can certainly add Matt Gigley's name to that list and that will be well before the end of the season.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:47 am  

vastman wrote:

The same could be said of Fielden when you signed him, and there lays Wigans big problem - every signing you make is in the past tense. I'm not suggesting Gleeson will be awful, I'm suggesting that Saints and Warrington saw the best of him some years ago and the only way now is down.

Only time will tell.

Fielden has been shocking a shocking signing, but and it is a pretty big but, he was an integral part of us staying up, along with the creative accounting of Mr Whelan, his form in the latter half of the season he signed was nothing more than outstanding, so you could argue he was worth it simply for that alone, and ensured that we did not lose the likes of Locky, Hock, Ainscough, Tomkins x 2, Hansen, Prescott, Richards who will go on to be the backbone of a potentially pretty good team once Mr Noble is shown the door.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:58 am  

The biggest factor in Wigan staying up that year is often forgotten when, and not to decry their efforts, Fielden and Dobson are taking the plaudits and that was the skewed fixture list.

If my memory serves me correct Wigan played so many away games at the beginning of the season that something like 8 out of 10 games were home fixtures at the end the season. Prior to the signing of Fielden I always believed Wigan were likely to avoid relegation on account of this.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:37 am  

Looks like Reardon on his way out too. http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... wigan.html

Looks like Reardon on his way out too. http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... wigan.html