Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 10:14 am  

The Avenger wrote:

You should copy that into an email to WE as a response to her letter. Hopefully they'll print it next week

Great idea Avenger....just done it

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 10:22 am  

Wakey Til I Die wrote:

Regarding the council i have no love for them but i think they know that if Yorkcourt are 'forced' to build the stadium then they will just walk away and the land will be empty for ever and a day. It doesn't earn the council any money that way does it so thats why they won't lean on them like they should. As with eveything in life money talks. It's going to have to be some kind of compromise or nothing at all.

The bottom line is why the hell did WMDC allow Newcold to be built as a separate entity to the Newmarket site.
We can understand the need for a new application, due to the change in size (particularly the height) BUT, why should this have not counted towards the 60,000m2,
which would have triggered the stadium build ??
Nobody from WMDC has or appears willing to answer this.
They have hidden behind confidentiality clauses but it goes directly against the SoS instructions and appears to break the criteria set out in the S106.

Someone at WMDC and the planning dept. know the answer but NOBODY will say why, meanwhile the people of Wakefield are getting shafted.

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 10:31 am  

Because, as Clan alluded to previously.....they either didn't read and understand what they were approving, in which case they were negligent, or the scary version involves clandestine meetings and plain brown envelopes (allegedly !!)

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 10:37 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The bottom line is why the hell did WMDC allow Newcold to be built as a separate entity to the Newmarket site.
We can understand the need for a new application, due to the change in size (particularly the height) BUT, why should this have not counted towards the 60,000m2,
which would have triggered the stadium build ??
Nobody from WMDC has or appears willing to answer this.
They have hidden behind confidentiality clauses but it goes directly against the SoS instructions and appears to break the criteria set out in the S106.

Someone at WMDC and the planning dept. know the answer but NOBODY will say why, meanwhile the people of Wakefield are getting shafted.

You would have thought it would have counted even on a seperate application, unless that is some kind of get out clause. It is going to take a very skilled (and probably expensive!) lawyer to pick the bones out of it and even with a win a new stadium is probably a pipe dream. It does though stop them getting rich off the back of it, although the flip side is the area loses out on jobs and revenue to other areas which it desperately needs.

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 11:05 am  

FIL wrote:

I heard a rumour that it was along the lines of something similar to a magistrates court fine.........£5 per week for the next 300 years

Not quite but you are along the right lines.

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 11:07 am  

Wildthing wrote:

Can't fault a word of that!

Don't think anyone can.

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 11:08 am  

milopolly wrote:

I do not want us to 'roll over' but I would like to know what is/was on the table and therefore how far we have to go in negotiating anything remotely acceptable.
Again this is not meant in any way as a criticism of those working so hard.

FIL is on the right lines. Very much a case of jam tomorrow and not acceptable to the Stadium Trust.

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 11:41 am  

Councillor Jeffreys has very much aligned herself to the line spouted by Box, that the delivery of Community Facilities is nothing to do with them. Neither of them deserve any support when they next come up for election if that is the attitude they have.

The development of Newmarket is a planning process, from conception, to the Public Enquiry, to the Planning Approval and the mitigating factors (ie the S106).
WMDC want to cherry pick which bit they get involved in, when really it should all be overseen by their planning dept to ensure the citizens of Wakefield get what has been promised. To deny any invovlement in that is a dereliction of duty.

Jeffreys states that "the bottom line is that that the council is not in the business of providing rugby league stadiums" - well news for you, we are not asking you to, we just want you to ensure that your planners do not allow developers to trample all over the citizens of Wakefield by allowing them to ignore PLANNING commitments.

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 12:33 pm  

Smew wrote:

Councillor Jeffreys has very much aligned herself to the line spouted by Box, that the delivery of Community Facilities is nothing to do with them. Neither of them deserve any support when they next come up for election if that is the attitude they have.

The development of Newmarket is a planning process, from conception, to the Public Enquiry, to the Planning Approval and the mitigating factors (ie the S106).
WMDC want to cherry pick which bit they get involved in, when really it should all be overseen by their planning dept to ensure the citizens of Wakefield get what has been promised. To deny any invovlement in that is a dereliction of duty.

Jeffreys states that "the bottom line is that that the council is not in the business of providing rugby league stadiums" - well news for you, we are not asking you to, we just want you to ensure that your planners do not allow developers to trample all over the citizens of Wakefield by allowing them to ignore PLANNING commitments.

Can you email the WE with this? All BOX's soliders read the letters page religously and hate it when some FACTS are thrown at them...

[Wildthing]

Re: Public Meeting Confirmed for 22nd April - Cats : Fri May 01, 2015 1:25 pm  

The Labour Party doesn't come out of any of this very well do they?
Party of the working man, yet Rugby League is a sporting mans game.

Very ignorant of them to act like this!