The immigration point is irrelevant to the issue. I've seen immigration blamed for some things in my time, but Trin's plight is a new one on me. It's because we are performing not very well in a decrepit stadium that costs a fortune to enter.
Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine!
BillyRhino wrote:
So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
Wrong again, I am quite happy posting under the rugbyball screen name, stop being so paranoid. It could be amberbelly or what ever his name was I can assure you its not me. Get a mod to check if you like.
I was not going to comment but just to make a distinction for the purpose of clarification. I am with you on the fact that house prices and other complaints of some of the locals will not get a look in at the PI , they will be more interested in planning law, particularly the areas they have asked for clarification on. The fact is at the moment the scheme does not stack up with current legislation, and the enquiry will be to determined if it the project carries enough positives to allow for departure from these laws.
Rugbyball - I apologise if indeed I am mistaken (but he does have a similar posting style to you and spells inquiry as enquiry... I know I am being a pedent about this but I don't care! ). If true, I take it back... I am not being paranoid, you mistake me with others!
I am interested why you still don't think it stacks up though... the one issue the PI and delay has done has brought the site specfic LDF into play and therefore 65% of the B8 is going to stack. I think the longer this takes the better it becomes (which is ironic in some ways) for this getting through the PI. The recent policy change on car parking spaces and a move towards greener car options by the Government is huge shift in thinking and only strengthens one of Newmarket's weaker points in policy.
The call in notice, they have determined exactly what they "wish to be informed about for the purposes of his consideration of the application" and in a nutshell it is - does if meet the core strategy in the LDF, is it consistent with government planning policy on sustainability, green-belt, urban regeneration, biodiversity and transport (but it's location and accessibility to reduce car use, not HGV traffic access) and finally recreation space development.
Which most of the objectors are concerned about. To say that they have been dismissed is misleading to say the least.
But hey, keep up the good work with the petition which probably will be dismissed in the same way.
Last time Trinity were at Wembley, you had Mike Lampkowski at scrum half. Your opponents Widnes had GB RL legend Vinty Karalius coaching. If your memory doesn't go back that far, you might like to think about where names like Kris Radlinski, John Stankevitch or Ikram Butt come from.
That Craig Kopczak lad we were after a few seasons ago from Bradford... that'll be all that "white flight"...
As a Trinity fan since the 1960's, now living abroad, I supported the club by buying worthless shares, yet I get feck-all as a result except head-banging frustration and silence.
I am at the point were I have lost total confidence and interest in the club, a day I thought I would never live to see! Life's too short for all of this.
Although age and time wise I cant really go as long as you have, however I too invested /donated money to the club for years, bought everything going, did everything I could to support and build the brand of Wakefield Wildcats, but over the past few years I too lost confidence, became literally bored with the entertainment on the field and found the entertainment off it more entertaining in a comical way over the shambles that came forward.
Now I can only echo your sentiments and have lost total interest in it all and wouldnt shed a tear if we ceased to exist in all fairness. In my eyes things are that bad, and there would have been no way Id have been saying that 5 years ago.
whats that got to do with the price of fish. its a trickle over 40 year, not exactly a flood is it
Do you reckon (for example) the Korkidas or Demetriou families arrived in Australia, from Greece, with a love for and deep knowledge of rugby league? Did Ellery Hanley's dad play rugby league when he was growing up in the Caribbean? If there's loads of Poles in Wakefield, Trinity should be doing their damnedest to get them involved, not using it as an excuse.
Well, thank goodness we've got that. Seem to have been more bothered about getting dancers to enrol in classes than running a rugby league club for the past few years.
Where's John Harbin and a rousing speech to beg for our cash this time? It's 2001 all over again. Belle Vue was inadequate then, it was in 1998, it was in 1992 and years before.
Oh, and Wakefield No.1, I'm glad £1000 may not be much to you, but for many it's more than a months wage, and electric, transport and food will keep the family going, throwing it at a 'professional' rugby club would not.
(P.S. Why don't mods just delete trolls rather than have them derail discussion?)
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Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
I think you're absolutely right, but I can't see there being much sympathy for that view from the Championship clubs that have been living with that reality for a number of years now, while we've been dining at the top table.
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Strangely I think there is a huge amount of sympathy for you , this situation you find yourself in was predicted by many of us lower tier fans 3/4 years ago
It seems we were right
The RFL are willing to provide Championship clubs with money to ' chase ' sponsorship and corporate finance , when as you have discovered , it is basically impossible without a cast iron guarantee of what you can achieve , noody with money will support any club with a glass ceiling above it , just as you are struggling to bring in finance as you are walking on a frozen pond
Franchising eh , great innit
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Do you reckon (for example) the Korkidas or Demetriou families arrived in Australia, from Greece, with a love for and deep knowledge of rugby league? Did Ellery Hanley's dad play rugby league when he was growing up in the Caribbean? If there's loads of Poles in Wakefield, Trinity should be doing their damnedest to get them involved, not using it as an excuse.
no but they were born into a rugby league culture and spent there life round one. why dont they play rl in barnsley or newcastle because its not in there upbringing weve spent 100 and odd years trying to spread the game and we cant spread it 10 mile down the road to an area which was a mining area. i played with ikram but as a junior but even his career didnt actually help did it