Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:29 am  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

I think it would have actually made it more difficult for the RFL to single out one club, particularly if they were going to claim the decision was based on stadium facilities which would be identical.
And it would have been better than being in the current situation. Your BoD are a bunch of imbiciles for expecting to get the go-ahead to build on 100% green-belt land without being called in!
I certainly don't want to come across as gloating as I would love both clubs to do well (as tempting as it is after the years of trolling on the Castleford Forum over the past year or so).

which stadium in Castleford is this?

As things stand at the moment Castleford are fractionally better off than Wakefield Trinity are, indeed it could be argued that due to the funding crisis at Castleford they may be further away from a stadium than Wakefield are.

I hope that that isn't the case and that Castleford can solve their funding problems, get their new stadium and retain their super league place but to suggest that Wakefield Trinity's board of directors have done their club and the fans an injustice by not going Glasshoughton is ill informed and myopic.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:33 am  

chissitt wrote:

Enjoy it then while you can then squire, I noticed you chose to ignore the bit about all your funding being in place perhaps you are another one that cannot determine fact from fantasy.

What like you were when you were all saying the PP will fly through, it was said all along that it would go to a PI but no ....... Get real, I'd wager when yorkcourt realise the costs in this process they will bail out !

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:35 am  

The Clan wrote:

which stadium in Castleford is this?

As things stand at the moment Castleford are fractionally better off than Wakefield Trinity are, indeed it could be argued that due to the funding crisis at Castleford they may be further away from a stadium than Wakefield are.

I hope that that isn't the case and that Castleford can solve their funding problems, get their new stadium and retain their super league place but to suggest that Wakefield Trinity's board of directors have done their club and the fans an injustice by not going Glasshoughton is ill informed and myopic.

Fractionally ???????? What exactly do you own ?

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:37 am  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

I hope that the appeal is successful and you get your stadium.

Its not an appeal at this stage, Its been called in to the Secretary of State to decide, if he decides against it, then there can be an appeal, You could be talking years in this process

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:40 am  

Speedy wrote:

Fractionally ???????? What exactly do you own ?

We don't own anything at the moment but we will have a super league standard stadium to play in from 2012 onwards (probably Oakwell) whereas i wouldn't be so sure about cas having a super league standard stadium to play in.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:44 am  

altofts wildcat wrote:

We don't own anything at the moment but we will have a super league standard stadium to play in from 2012 onwards (probably Oakwell) whereas i wouldn't be so sure about cas having a super league standard stadium to play in.

How do you know you'll have a SL standard stadium to play in in 2012. You have nothing. You're out of Hearapindrop stadium end of next year and are homeless. Sleeping on a mates sofa really won't do. YOU have nothing but an eviction notice for September 2011.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:46 am  

chissitt wrote:

Enjoy it then while you can then squire, I noticed you chose to ignore the bit about all your funding being in place perhaps you are another one that cannot determine fact from fantasy.

We wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas...

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:49 am  

Riggins wrote:

How do you know you'll have a SL standard stadium to play in in 2012. You have nothing. You're out of Hearapindrop stadium end of next year and are homeless. Sleeping on a mates sofa really won't do. YOU have nothing but an eviction notice for September 2011.

And arent you so happy about that. Stop with the gloating stuff because if GH does not come off you could look silly. Just think about if your club was in trouble and how you would feel.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:58 am  

Speedy wrote:

Fractionally ???????? What exactly do you own ?

what's that got to do with it?

Castleford have outline planning permission, the £2 million contribution underwritten by Wakefield Council, an old contract with Ben Bailey homes that isn't worth the paper it's written on. If and when Castleford finally apply for full planning permission Im sure they will be successful in obtaining it but then comes the problems of actually funding the build which Castleford cannot do at this moment in time.

That in my opinion is as big of a hurdle as the public enquiry issues that Wakefield Trinity have and as lI suggested in my previous post it could be viewed as more serious and potentially more difficult to overcome.

The big issue for me is the timing of the franchise decisions and the different way the two clubs are viewed from the outside. It is my honest opinion that the two clubs are of very similar standing in most aspects with one being strong in one area but weaker in another. Unfortunately for Wakefield I don't believe that my opinion is shared by those people who will make the decision about franchises and therefore Castleford will get the nod ahead of Wakefield.

I'm not trying to say that Castleford don't deserve their place in super league, of course they do, and believe me or not if the roles were reversed and Castleford were omitted from the super league I would be as disgusted as I will be if it were Wakefield.

As a rugby league fan I am dismayed by the franchise process and believe it's only a matter of time before we return to traditional promotion and relegation. Unfortunately I believe there will be irreparable damage done in the meantime to a number of clubs and obviously to my own club Wakefield Trinity should they be unlucky enough to lose their place in super league this time round.

Had Steve O'Conner not been around to rescue Widnes they may have been another traditionally successful and historic club to have been destroyed by this ridiculous process.

Some might suggest that I'm only saying this because Wakefield are in jeopardy but that's not the case, I've voiced my disgust and concern about this in the past.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:03 am  

The Clan wrote:

what's that got to do with it?

Castleford have outline planning permission, the £2 million contribution underwritten by Wakefield Council, an old contract with Ben Bailey homes that isn't worth the paper it's written on. If and when Castleford finally apply for full planning permission Im sure they will be successful in obtaining it but then comes the problems of actually funding the build which Castleford cannot do at this moment in time.

That in my opinion is as big of a hurdle as the public enquiry issues that Wakefield Trinity have and as lI suggested in my previous post it could be viewed as more serious and potentially more difficult to overcome.

The big issue for me is the timing of the franchise decisions and the different way the two clubs are viewed from the outside. It is my honest opinion that the two clubs are of very similar standing in most aspects with one being strong in one area but weaker in another. Unfortunately for Wakefield I don't believe that my opinion is shared by those people who will make the decision about franchises and therefore Castleford will get the nod ahead of Wakefield.

I'm not trying to say that Castleford don't deserve their place in super league, of course they do, and believe me or not if the roles were reversed and Castleford were omitted from the super league I would be as disgusted as I will be if it were Wakefield.

As a rugby league fan I am dismayed by the franchise process and believe it's only a matter of time before we return to traditional promotion and relegation. Unfortunately I believe there will be irreparable damage done in the meantime to a number of clubs and obviously to my own club Wakefield Trinity should they be unlucky enough to lose their place in super league this time round.

Had Steve O'Conner not been around to rescue Widnes they may have been another traditionally successful and historic club to have been destroyed by this ridiculous process.

Some might suggest that I'm only saying this because Wakefield are in jeopardy but that's not the case, I've voiced my disgust and concern about this in the past.

You said Cas were fractionally better off than wake didnt you, i asked the question what do you own ? Am mi not allowed to ask that ?

Go on what do WTW own ?