Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:12 am  

I hope that the appeal is successful and you get your stadium.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:29 am  

Sandal Cat wrote:

All the £11.5m (Fully's price) is in place to build the Stadium. Thats great news for you but just out of curiousity where is the £11.5m coming from ? I'm aware that the Council has put up land to allow a loan facility of £2m. Ben Bailey have an option on Wheldon Road but that will only be bought once Outline consent has been obtained and at today's market value which is well down on the peak values of 3/4 years ago when they took out the option.

Not my business but just curious.

Here is my suggestion how it could work.

Plans for Newmarket re submitted for a much smaller and modest scheme of purely the industrial units and nothing more. These are all on the old pit site which would be much less contraversial. The much smaller planning gain from this would be given to glasshoughton.

Add to that the other £2M that should have gone to us and then you may just about there.

Infacts its back to where we were about 8 months ago

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:36 am  

Riggins wrote:

Did Santa drop of your rose tinted glasses early or have we been having a little christmas drink too early??

You keep trying to tell yourself that Wakey still have a better application than Cas. Full planning permission will go in by next week for the Glasshougton site, not outline PP. Money is in place and the project is ready to go. I can not honestly believe that you think Wakey have the best application after yesterday's news.

According to Fully the cost of your stadium is £11.5million pound, you say the project is ready to go that means that your club must have already sold WR and got the rest of the financial package sorted for you, and you have been sitting on £9.5million pounds until now, and that the £2million Wakey council has released to you will ensure your total funding according to that, thats good news for you, but don't you think that you would be better off on your own board trying to convince your own sceptics instead of trying to convince people on here who quite frankly atm could not care less hth.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:44 am  

Riggins wrote:

Did Santa drop of your rose tinted glasses early or have we been having a little christmas drink too early??

You keep trying to tell yourself that Wakey still have a better application than Cas. Full planning permission will go in by next week for the Glasshougton site, not outline PP. Money is in place and the project is ready to go. I can not honestly believe that you think Wakey have the best application after yesterday's news.

If you read the post, you will see that I said that if Cas start building and have the funds to complete, then the Cas application is stronger, undoubtedly. I just have a suspicion, however, that planning permission is being obtained to demonstrate an intention, not an ability. If you have just planning permission, then I am not sure the RFL will buy it. And before you say it, I do think that you would spend money on getting planning permission even if you can't build, because without it your franchising application is dead in the water.

If you don't demonstrate an ability to complete, then on paper our application will be stronger, as we will be in a Super League quality stadium, and you won't.

I'm not being rose-tinted. Today, would rather be in Cas's shoes than ours, but that doesn't mean we are finished, and it doesn't mean that you are home and dry.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:46 am  

chissitt wrote:

According to Fully the cost of your stadium is £11.5million pound, you say the project is ready to go that means that your club must have already sold WR and got the rest of the financial package sorted for you, and you have been sitting on £9.5million pounds until now, and that the £2million Wakey council has released to you will ensure your total funding according to that, thats good news for you, but don't you think that you would be better off on your own board trying to convince your own sceptics instead of trying to convince people on here who quite frankly atm could not care less hth.

I'm just enjoying life in general at the moment and getting into the Christmas mood. Its been a good couple of days so far for me. I almost believe in Santa again.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:57 am  

Sandal Cat wrote:

We won't be playing NL at Oakwell though. The only way we will be playing at Oakwell (assuming thats Plan B) is if we manage to get a franchise for 2012. If we don't get a franchise we will stay at Belle Vue and either wait and hope for Newmarket and make a bid in 2015 or 2018 or remain a NL/Feeder club at Belle Vue forever.

Belle Vue has been sold and half the money received and spent. We are homeless at the end of the season as Cala homes will be wanting their land.

Demotion to the championship will leave a funding gap for Newmarket as the councils £2million land loan is based on us being in superleague and its requirement to upgrade stadia. It is highley likely to be withdrawn in July 2011should we miss the franchise. The same goes for Cas. So I would guess theres a chance that for whoever gets the chop their stadium may never happen, condeming them to a life in the lower leagues for many years, should they survive.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:59 am  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

I hope that the appeal is successful and you get your stadium.

Thanks for that fella. Wish more Castleford supporters were more sensible about all of this as you seem to be. The gloating and lack of class shown by some has been really bad.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:03 am  

Richard1 wrote:

Thanks for that fella. Wish more Castleford supporters were more sensible about all of this as you seem to be. The gloating and lack of class shown by some has been really bad.

Thank you Richard. I do think the gloating is out of order from some people and that is a shame that this happens. There are plenty of us who wish Wakefield well with getting permission for your new stadium and hopefully the Secretary of State will do the right thing by Wakefield Trinity and give you the go-ahead.

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:06 am  

Lets hope the RFL let you continue in SL with your plan B but not at the expense of ourselves obviously, personally i think the Wrexham lot deserve to lose their place,

Finally i was curious what SWAG stands for.......


Supporters Without A Ground perhaps???

sorry....couldnt resist

Re: Disappointed isn't the word!!! : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:12 am  

Riggins wrote:

I'm just enjoying life in general at the moment and getting into the Christmas mood. Its been a good couple of days so far for me. I almost believe in Santa again.

Enjoy it then while you can then squire, I noticed you chose to ignore the bit about all your funding being in place perhaps you are another one that cannot determine fact from fantasy.