Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:39 pm  

On-field performance scores based on the last three seasons. St Helens 4.75 Wigan Warriors 4.1389 Leeds Rhinos 3.7778 Catalans Dragons 3.6667 Huddersfield Giants 3.5556 Hull FC 3.4444 Warrington Wolves3.3333 Castleford Tigers 3.2222 Hull KR 3.1111 Salford Red Devils 3 Leigh Leopards 2.916 Wakefield Trinity 2.8889 Toulouse Olympique 2.7778 Featherstone Rovers 2.6556 Batley Bulldogs 2.4444 Halifax Panthers 2.3333 York Knights 2.2222 Bradford Bulls 2.1111 Sheffield Eagles 2 Widnes Vikings 1.8889 London Broncos 1.7778 https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... g-27259545

On-field performance scores based on the last three seasons. St Helens 4.75 Wigan Warriors 4.1389 Leeds Rhinos 3.7778 Catalans Dragons 3.6667 Huddersfield Giants 3.5556 Hull FC 3.4444 Warrington Wolves3.3333 Castleford Tigers 3.2222 Hull KR 3.1111 Salford Red Devils 3 Leigh Leopards 2.916 Wakefield Trinity 2.8889 Toulouse Olympique 2.7778 Featherstone Rovers 2.6556 Batley Bulldogs 2.4444 Halifax Panthers 2.3333 York Knights 2.2222 Bradford Bulls 2.1111 Sheffield Eagles 2 Widnes Vikings 1.8889 London Broncos 1.7778 https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... g-27259545

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:40 pm  

Edge of the seat stuff is this.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:44 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Edge of the seat stuff is this.

A slow death indeed...

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:12 pm  

dboy wrote:

0.22 is bigger than 0.15.

Are you are saying that 7/11/11 averages as 9.666, and it's that calculation that is re-ranked and then attributed the performance score?

In that scenario, we would be 10/12/13 = 11.666, so you are looking at whether another club could/would drop in between and change the 3 year rankings?

Yes

Cas as 7/11/11 would be 3.3334 + 2.8889 + 2.8889 = 9.1114
Average over 3 years is 3.0371

This is the one area that's difficult to predict as you need to know where your team will finish but also where everyone else will finish.

Hull for example had 8/9/10 last time to give a score of 3.11 which put them lower than Cas. But if Cas finish 11th they would have to finish 10th to equal the score or higher to beat them.

In our case, the best we can get is 10/12/13 and that 13th ranking is calculated after the playoffs so if you are 5th but lose in the GF you are ranked as 2nd or 14th in the long list.
But there are additional bonus points for cup winners. Those points aren't included in the average. They are added for one year only.

It's hard to go through this without showing the spreadsheet.
Sorry to all those finding this boring. If I get chance I'll move it to another thread to keep this one about Cas redevelopment.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:23 pm  

0.22 is bigger than 0.15.
Not if Cas are doing the maths

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:26 pm  

dboy wrote: On-field performance scores based on the last three seasons. St Helens 4.75 Wigan Warriors 4.1389 Leeds Rhinos 3.7778 Catalans Dragons 3.6667 Huddersfield Giants 3.5556 Hull FC 3.4444 Warrington Wolves3.3333 Castleford Tigers 3.2222 Hull KR 3.1111 Salford Red Devils 3 Leigh Leopards 2.916 Wakefield Trinity 2.8889 Toulouse Olympique 2.7778 Featherstone Rovers 2.6556 Batley Bulldogs 2.4444 Halifax Panthers 2.3333 York Knights 2.2222 Bradford Bulls 2.1111 Sheffield Eagles 2 Widnes Vikings 1.8889 London Broncos 1.7778 https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... g-27259545 I agree with these numbers, but they are for last year. So using the league positions for 2020 2021 and 2022. If you calculate them now you'd use 2023. And at the end of this season, you'd use 2022 2023 and 2024

dboy wrote: On-field performance scores based on the last three seasons. St Helens 4.75 Wigan Warriors 4.1389 Leeds Rhinos 3.7778 Catalans Dragons 3.6667 Huddersfield Giants 3.5556 Hull FC 3.4444 Warrington Wolves3.3333 Castleford Tigers 3.2222 Hull KR 3.1111 Salford Red Devils 3 Leigh Leopards 2.916 Wakefield Trinity 2.8889 Toulouse Olympique 2.7778 Featherstone Rovers 2.6556 Batley Bulldogs 2.4444 Halifax Panthers 2.3333 York Knights 2.2222 Bradford Bulls 2.1111 Sheffield Eagles 2 Widnes Vikings 1.8889 London Broncos 1.7778 https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... g-27259545 I agree with these numbers, but they are for last year. So using the league positions for 2020 2021 and 2022. If you calculate them now you'd use 2023. And at the end of this season, you'd use 2022 2023 and 2024

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:02 pm  

Yes, I know.

I'm hoping you have done the maths on the latest situation!

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Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:42 pm  

I have but you've got to guess everyone else's position.

Best case for us, we come top and win GF and 1895
Cas come 11th or 12th
Salford and Huddersfield down at bottom as well

And Toulouse don't do well in playoffs

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:17 pm  

Well Toulouse will gain nothing from the 1895 cup.

Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B : Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:48 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Well Toulouse will gain nothing from the 1895 cup.

You would of thought that they might of had a pop at this competition just for the IMG points