Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:07 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

Why would you of? especially when you take in the bigger picture. At Newmarket we were not only supposed to get a modern purpose built stadium, but also our own training grounds inside and out that would have set us up for the future and also enabled the rest of the Community to use, which we obviously lack. At Dewsbury we're renting a small stadium, that's it. Obviously Newmarket is dead but if when it started you were offered a new stadium etc at Newmaket or renting Dewsbury's I'd have been dumb struck if anyone said rent Dewsbury's.

Aye and Yorkshire CC were coming to Durkar also!

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:10 pm  

I think people are trying to convince themselves a move to Dewsbury is a good thing. It isn't. Sadly it seems there we're left with little option due to Michael Carter not wanting to take on the liability of BV, which of course is his prerogative.

The club have been shafted big time, and yes fault lay at the feet of the incumbents of the recent past but it doesn't change the fact the officials of this district have let their paymasters down badly.

It will be a sad day when the club leave Wakefield, and I'm not sure it will survive a season of 27 away games. If we drop down next year we will have no hope of getting back up as no doubt part time RL beckons. All I can see from then on is extinction.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:32 pm  

I've said previously that a couple of years at Dewsbury but with a cast iron plan to move back to Wakefield at the end of that period into a new or refurbished stadium wouldn't be the end of the world. But to leave the city with nothing set in stone regarding our return would be the beginning of the end for this club as i fear it would drag on and on. I'm sure there would be a novelty factor for the first year and a decent amount of the season ticket holders would renew but that would soon wear off and i can see terminal decline following. A mix of incompetent club custodians, an unsuportive council with a Castleford bias and worst of all a less than honest developer has screwed us into the ground.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:34 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

I think people are trying to convince themselves a move to Dewsbury is a good thing. It isn't. Sadly it seems there we're left with little option due to Michael Carter not wanting to take on the liability of BV, which of course is his prerogative.

The club have been shafted big time, and yes fault lay at the feet of the incumbents of the recent past but it doesn't change the fact the officials of this district have let their paymasters down badly.

It will be a sad day when the club leave Wakefield, and I'm not sure it will survive a season of 27 away games. If we drop down next year we will have no hope of getting back up as no doubt part time RL beckons. All I can see from then on is extinction.

No, I'm not trying to convince myself that Dewsbury is a good thing but I do know that in our predicament it's the best thing.

The RFL will not allow us a dispensation to play at Belle Vue any more, we do not own the ground. There's no guarantee that if we spent a million on it to satisfy the RFL that the landlord won't serve us a notice to quit anyway. In those circumstances who in their right mind would throw our already limited finances up against a wall fixing up a money pit.

I am as emotionally attached to Belle Vue as anyone and I'm filthy over the fraud, deceit and corruption that's put us in this situation but I can't see a way out other than to move us to Dewsbury and continue the fight from there.

What we've all got to do is 'out' Peter Box and his gang of bandits.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:35 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

You want an apology for what, there is nothing in this statement that could be said to be accurate. The ground which I pointed out before the Catalan game had been sold to a developer not a group of residents from Agbrigg.
I would expect the club knew of the position, so you will need to ask yourself we now have no plan B unless we have done a deal with the developer and once we move out of Wakefield we will never return because we couldn't afford a new ground.
I would also say before you ask I did not see Carter because unlike many on here I have a life that is not ruled by Wakefield Trinity or this forum. I am afraid I do not know what you will do if any move does not work because you will have to go outside and possibly meet people not purely connected to the club.
If I choose I will speak to MC but currently the possibility of me attending any further games this season are slim. I do however look forward to the announcement when it comes, it's a shame they decided to tell the press of the sale of the ground before the supporters.

As far as I know the club didn't release this info,the Yorkshire post did.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:38 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

No, I'm not trying to convince myself that Dewsbury is a good thing but I do know that in our predicament it's the best thing.

The RFL will not allow us a dispensation to play at Belle Vue any more, we do not own the ground. There's no guarantee that if we spent a million on it to satisfy the RFL that the landlord won't serve us a notice to quit anyway. In those circumstances who in their right mind would throw our already limited finances up against a wall fixing up a money pit.

I am as emotionally attached to Belle Vue as anyone and I'm filthy over the fraud, deceit and corruption that's put us in this situation but I can't see a way out other than to move us to Dewsbury and continue the fight from there.

What we've all got to do is 'out' Peter Box and his gang of bandits.

Spot on.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:39 pm  

FickleFingerOfFate wrote:

Aye and Yorkshire CC were coming to Durkar also!

Not what I asked or what you said was it!

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:44 pm  

Like above I'm happy with Dewsbury aslong as its short term the grounds just about in Wakefield and probably quicker for me to get to than Belle Vue. I think the fall out from this is we will get some land elsewhere in Wakefield.

Up the Trin

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:48 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

No, I'm not trying to convince myself that Dewsbury is a good thing but I do know that in our predicament it's the best thing.

The RFL will not allow us a dispensation to play at Belle Vue any more, we do not own the ground. There's no guarantee that if we spent a million on it to satisfy the RFL that the landlord won't serve us a notice to quit anyway. In those circumstances who in their right mind would throw our already limited finances up against a wall fixing up a money pit.

I am as emotionally attached to Belle Vue as anyone and I'm filthy over the fraud, deceit and corruption that's put us in this situation but I can't see a way out other than to move us to Dewsbury and continue the fight from there.

What we've all got to do is 'out' Peter Box and his gang of bandits.

Agree with all of that

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:51 pm  

Daddycool wrote:

For information, sky money does not cover the cap. We get 1.495 million from sky. Cap is 1.825. We spend 1.7 million. Renovating BV can only come from one place. First team budget. Which would make us even less competitive!

Good to see some figures Michael, cheers for that. I know you've said previously that we needed about 6300 to spend full Cap, so wondered what we got.