Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 11:58 am  

PopTart wrote:

Well I'm just surprised they are reviewing performance of the whole team for an hour after the game, never mind a single player.....
But hey you may be right.

Out of all the vitriol that gets posted on here you decide to question something that actually came from a players mouth, with said player not playing since that performance. Not too sure what they analyse after games, though I’m not too sure what they’re actually doing at training either lately. The key in this is a correlation of similar stories are coming out of the club regarding supposed senior players getting a free reign……… in a Galaxy far far away.

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Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 12:29 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

:lol: Out of all the vitriol that gets posted on here you decide to question something that actually came from a players mouth, with said player not playing since that performance. Not too sure what they analyse after games, though I’m not too sure what they’re actually doing at training either lately. The key in this is a correlation of similar stories are coming out of the club regarding supposed senior players getting a free reign……… in a Galaxy far far away.

If its true then there is something wrong with that.
But even Alex Ferguson with all his hairdryer moments didn't go at people for an hour.
Maybe I'm being pedantic but that just seems like exaggeration, which if you were the player in question you'd probably feel like it was an hour.

Also, and this is purely just how I get Mash from interviews and chats, I'm surprised he is that aggressive in team talk. I thought he might actually be too weak for some rather than a shouter. Shows what I know.

As for the vitriol bit. I take your point. I apologies. There are so many fantasy 'I heard' moments I might be jumping too quickly.

Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 12:30 pm  

TDNC wrote:

100% surely they should all be back for a recovery session? If we even bother

Recovering from what, another rsoling.

Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 1:02 pm  

PopTart wrote:

If its true then there is something wrong with that.
But even Alex Ferguson with all his hairdryer moments didn't go at people for an hour.
Maybe I'm being pedantic but that just seems like exaggeration, which if you were the player in question you'd probably feel like it was an hour.

Also, and this is purely just how I get Mash from interviews and chats, I'm surprised he is that aggressive in team talk. I thought he might actually be too weak for some rather than a shouter. Shows what I know.

As for the vitriol bit. I take your point. I apologies. There are so many fantasy 'I heard' moments I might be jumping too quickly.

It could be a massive Hyperbole, though I’m confident in what I was told by who I was told by. I’m not one to come on here talking crap or trying to spread rumours, it just worries me I’ve heard a few times now about said inequality in the team currently. That must be crap for moral let’s face it, with our performances pretty much backing it up too.

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Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 1:06 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

It could be a massive Hyperbole, though I’m confident in what I was told by who I was told by. I’m not one to come on here talking crap or trying to spread rumours, it just worries me I’ve heard a few times now about said inequality in the team currently. That must be crap for moral let’s face it, with our performances pretty much backing it up too.

Obviously I can tell who you are talking about so it's a shame if true.

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Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 1:17 pm  

Uptoncat wrote:

Are you mad? This is a team (supposedly) travel there as a team, win/lose as a team, travel home as a team. No wonder there’s no respect for the coaching staff. This bloke has done absolutely nothing at all on the pitch yet his afforded luxuries others can only dream of. I have it on good authority the experienced more seasoned players get basically a free rein and never come under scrutiny in video sessions etc. the younger and so called lesser players are vilifies at every opportunity. What a great coaching method to demand respect and encourage galvanising the squad. A typical example this year Eddie Battye made one defensive error and was an absolutely hammered for it and dropped. During the same game our esteemed superstar made the exact same error 7 times in the game and not a word was said and he retained his place. Seems Atoni only never plays when he’s injured yet Eseh struggled to buy a starting spot early in the season. Take your blinkers off and wake up to the real (sporting) world. This is not how a club should be run. This is just a bunch of blokes together on a field it isn’t a team and whilever we continue with current coach that will never change. Far too much out of his depth and has lost all his credibility - not just because of the results but because of the things stated above and more.

So I don't know how to break this to you given my pedantic posts do tend to wind people up but I don't get why people post things that aren't true. We have so many things actually wrong you'd think it would be easy to find one.

But your post refers to 'esteemed star' and I'm not sure which you mean. I assume Atoni.
But you say he missed 7 tackles in a game when Battye only missed one.

In all the games Battye played this season (11) he has never not missed a tackle and only missed 1 in 3 games. Total of 24 missed tackles in 11 games at a success rate of 91.4%
Atoni by comparison has only missed 8 tackles all season. Success rate 96.1%. Going 4 games without missing a tackle.

Battye has made 256 tackles in 11 games. Atoni 251 in 10 games.

So I don't like Atoni's attack by a long way. But your post about comparing to Battye is not correct. According to the Super League stats.

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Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 1:22 pm  

Getting back to Proctor, his stats surprised me a bit.

In the first 4 games he played 253 minutes, meaning an average of 63 minutes each game, in the middle.

He was then injured for 3 games.
He's now doing 30-37 minutes until he played second row against Hull for 80 minutes again.
I'm thinking he didn't recover properly.....which is a problem for older players when injured I guess.

Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 1:36 pm  

PopTart wrote:

So I don't know how to break this to you given my pedantic posts do tend to wind people up but I don't get why people post things that aren't true. We have so many things actually wrong you'd think it would be easy to find one.

But your post refers to 'esteemed star' and I'm not sure which you mean. I assume Atoni.
But you say he missed 7 tackles in a game when Battye only missed one.

In all the games Battye played this season (11) he has never not missed a tackle and only missed 1 in 3 games. Total of 24 missed tackles in 11 games at a success rate of 91.4%
Atoni by comparison has only missed 8 tackles all season. Success rate 96.1%. Going 4 games without missing a tackle.

Battye has made 256 tackles in 11 games. Atoni 251 in 10 games.

So I don't like Atoni's attack by a long way. But your post about comparing to Battye is not correct. According to the Super League stats.

He didn’t say missed tackles he said defensive errors. They are not always one and the same.

Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 1:38 pm  

Anyway Procter is nailed on for next week. Newcastle is the next stop in his sightseeing tour.

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Re: Taxi for Proctor too? : Sun May 28, 2023 2:30 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

He didn’t say missed tackles he said defensive errors. They are not always one and the same.

They are not, but they do include missed tackles, so Atoni has a lot of penalties or other things to give away to catch up.
But if you can be more specific and can get you the stats.