Re: Newcold : Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:14 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Same planning authority that passed the Hepworth Gallery and the histororical archive building on Kirkgate,
davetrin. Doesn't that tell you everything?

Yes, that they actually have a bit of a track record of pushing through some decent things for the city. Which makes it all the more frustrating that they won't give us any assistance.

Re: Newcold : Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:46 pm  

We went to Warrington yesterday and played at an absolutely superb facility that had everything for just about every sport you could imagine. About 3 miles from The Halliwell Jones stadium and virtually brand new it had around 6 quality Rugby League pitches with one of them being flanked by stands.

Speaking to the Warrington Head of Youth I remarked on their facilities and he said much of it was down to Warrington Council who had invested £3.5 Million pounds into the facility.

So apart from being very compliant and helpful over the sale and upkeep of Wilderspool and the building of the Warrington Stadium the Warrington Borough Council have invested heavily in Community Sports facilities that the Pro Rugby Club have first use of. They've managed to do this during the same period of austerity that Wakefield Council use as an excuse over everything especially sports facilities.

I have to wonder if there's such a thing as being criminally incompetent or negligent in terms of running a Council.

Re: Newcold : Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:33 pm  

Did anyone answer on the other thread the question I asked about why the Trust didn't object when the proposal to allow Newcold to be built outside the S106 was put forward? That seems to have been the key moment when the entire scam was enabled.

Re: Newcold : Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:38 pm  

As WMDC spending goes down, Peter Box's salary goes up and up. Can anybody truly think of a local authority in this country that gives their council tax payers so little in return, and is so uncaring about the people that pay their wages? They seem to spend everything on council vehicles. I've never seen as many vans and wagons in others areas as I do here in Wakefield. I certainly envy the citizens of Warrington.

Re: Newcold : Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:51 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Did anyone answer on the other thread the question I asked about why the Trust didn't object when the proposal to allow Newcold to be built outside the S106 was put forward? That seems to have been the key moment when the entire scam was enabled.

If I remember correctly from that information evening they did a couple of years ago, weren't they led to believe that it would count and hence supported it, only for the planning application to be changed at the last minute to include that it didn't contribute?

Re: Newcold : Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:57 am  

The Avenger wrote:

It wouldn't make sense for Wakefield Trinity to get into a Dutch auction with York Court over the purchase of Belle Vue. The only winner there is BoI who benefit from two parties who are supposedly on the same side bidding the price up between them.

From what I can tell, YCP and WMDC took the lead on bidding for the stadium and, as this represented the best way out of the stadium mess for all parties involved, MC took both their word and the back seat.

Judging from the little titbits that MC has revealed since it seems they out and out bare faced lied about seriously bidding and in the end just stepped aside allowing 88M to buy it.

More underhand, scheming and caniving from Mackie and Box.

That was the logic but clearlyo know that Yorkcourt renaged and never put in a serious bid.

My point is ans remaons why would anyone ever believe they would after whats happened. Whether it be the Trust, the club or even SWAG who decided to take that advise i don't know but to me it was as serious lack of judgement.

I'm not after blood it's done now and also I wasn't there and I know how convincing these people can be but me personally I wouldn't their word for it if they were just telling me the time. All very sad and so predictably Trinity, for thirty years now I've seen the club suckered time after time and nobody seems capable of breaking that cycle

Re: Newcold : Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:17 am  

davetrin wrote:

I often walk the footpaths in this area .Every time I see the giant white shoebox I wonder what the architect was thinking of when he designed this abortion and why did the planning department allow it to be constructed.Presumably the planning department thought it was a very attractive design that fitted in well with the surrounding countryside.

I'd hazard a guess you can see it from space!

It needs some dazzle pattern applying to it to at least make an effort to disguise it's monstrous appearance.

Re: Newcold : Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:55 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Did anyone answer on the other thread the question I asked about why the Trust didn't object when the proposal to allow Newcold to be built outside the S106 was put forward? That seems to have been the key moment when the entire scam was enabled.

Exactly !!! and the chairman of the Trust agreed this..

We need to know the reason this was done and what was gained from doing it

Re: Newcold : Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:34 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Did anyone answer on the other thread the question I asked about why the Trust didn't object when the proposal to allow Newcold to be built outside the S106 was put forward? That seems to have been the key moment when the entire scam was enabled.

Could someone please answer .

Re: Newcold : Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:59 pm  

Joe Banjo wrote:

Could someone please answer .

It has been answered above, but for clarity - there were 5 people officially on the Trust at the time, none of those was me, Ian or Jonathan. 2 of those were on the Trust due to their being involved in the club and of the other 3, only 1 appears to have known the truth. Everyone else, including James and Andrew, were led to believe that NC would take us around 60% of the way towards triggering a stadium!

For reference, in case anyone is waiting for more development at NM to help us, please have a look at their marketing material for that site!