Re: Ground : Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:04 pm  

Walked past ground tonight on way home from work.

There was a board up stating that a company called 88m group had acquired the site.

Dont know who they are but just looked on their website but didnt really say anything.

Any thoughts?

Re: Ground : Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:07 pm  

Maybe we could build a hover stadium and move it round the country?
Big Nige would love that.
No need for supporters coaches, just get there and off we go!
Brilliant!

Re: Ground : Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:30 pm  

this is getting beyond a joke now ---- the ground situation is a disgrace - somebody do something or we will be dead

Re: Ground : Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:41 pm  

Whatever is decided the one group that will not be considered or consulted are the supporters. We have been promised updates on several occasions covering many years and to date nothing but one excuse after another. The last I believe was when everyone was back from holiday, but I now notice that our Chairman is away.
I expect we will be left with a fait accompli because the club is nothing more than a pawn in a game of brinkmanship between the board and WMDC with the only losers the great club that is Wakefield Trinity and us the supporters.
I expect the usual suspects will rally to the support of the board and the fine work they are doing but remember we could shortly be moving to a championship club with a reduced capacity and outside our home district and no plans in place to ever return.
It is easy to blame the council but I don't know of any extra help they have given to Castleford or Featherstone. They gave us planning permission called in by the conservative Goverment they provided the same for Castleford. If someone can explain in what way we have been treated on a less preferential basis than our two neighbours. Over to the happy band of MC tweeting set to enlighten us all.

Re: Ground : Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:54 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

If we moved to Fev then Box would say we already have a stadium in Wakefield and he could then justify giving us absolutely nothing more. At least being forced to move outside Wakefield would cause the council some embarrassment. However I think Dewsbury although 100yds outside the wmdc is still nearer to Waket than Fev.

Do you really think the council would feel any embarrassment at us moving out of Wakefield? If so i can promise you that you are misguided on that one, they will probably hold a leaving party. In fact us voluntarily taking the option to move out with 4 years left to run on our lease to a ground outside the area is akin to digging our own grave, it gives another stick to beat us with. It is a decision that could have dire long term consequences without a guaranteed exit plan. And what chance that? You are right that Belle Vue is hardly in palatial surroundings and maybe we could be trying to polish a turd by doing it up but in my opinion it is better than moving away. As for the Fev thing a fair comparison is taking the distance from our current ground, the one everyone is used to visiting. In that case Dewsburys ground is getting on for nearly twice as far away as Post Office Road and that ground is already superleague ready. Would there not be a better option if possible?

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:05 am  

I'm gonna be very cynical here but Scarlett Pimpernell and Sacred cow have very similar opinions and strangely enough very similar amount of posts, strange isn't it?
And the "happy band of MC tweeting set" Scarlett Pimpernell, you sound very Sacred cow there.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:06 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Whatever is decided the one group that will not be considered or consulted are the supporters. We have been promised updates on several occasions covering many years and to date nothing but one excuse after another. The last I believe was when everyone was back from holiday, but I now notice that our Chairman is away.
I expect we will be left with a fait accompli because the club is nothing more than a pawn in a game of brinkmanship between the board and WMDC with the only losers the great club that is Wakefield Trinity and us the supporters.
I expect the usual suspects will rally to the support of the board and the fine work they are doing but remember we could shortly be moving to a championship club with a reduced capacity and outside our home district and no plans in place to ever return.
It is easy to blame the council but I don't know of any extra help they have given to Castleford or Featherstone. They gave us planning permission called in by the conservative Goverment they provided the same for Castleford. If someone can explain in what way we have been treated on a less preferential basis than our two neighbours. Over to the happy band of MC tweeting set to enlighten us all.

Just what has it got to do with the supporters the ground ownership is between the owners of the land selling and the purchaser. I remember under Teds regime shares could be bought but the take up was very low. If MC has put a bid in for the ground and someone else has outbid him then thats how it is the only sentiment is with those few people in the City who have an affinity to Trinity, the wider public probably do not care.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:29 am  

JINJER wrote:

I'm gonna be very cynical here but Scarlett Pimpernell and Sacred cow have very similar opinions and strangely enough very similar amount of posts, strange isn't it?
And the "happy band of MC tweeting set" Scarlett Pimpernell, you sound very Sacred cow there.

If you are suggesting we are one and the same then you are very wrong. I have no axe to grind with MC which seems his/her issue. My problem is purely with the club moving out of the Wakefield boundary, something i share with many supporters whom i talk to. It is only feasable if there is a watertight contract in place containing certain guarantees and strict timescales, not just 'the club hope to' or 'we aim to'. Maybe i'm being cynical but i have a horrible feeling that once we are out of the way then without a cast iron follow up plan then we will be gone for good and i have no confidence in this certain developer or the council coming through with any promises. My hope is that the delay in announcing the ground we will be at for next season is due to getting the legal parts of the BV revamp tied up which was the plan. I did hear that there was a fly in the ointment there again though as well.

One thing i would ask MC purely as a genuine question is he says he will no longer take on the liability for BV because of its state yet only 12 months ago he signed a new 5 year lease. What has changed since then? To the untrained eye it seems exactly the same as this time last year. Has the health and safety man condemed the place? Are the insurers being a pain in the backside? It might help the fans understand any move.

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:06 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:

If you are suggesting we are one and the same then you are very wrong. I have no axe to grind with MC which seems his/her issue. My problem is purely with the club moving out of the Wakefield boundary, something i share with many supporters whom i talk to. It is only feasable if there is a watertight contract in place containing certain guarantees and strict timescales, not just 'the club hope to' or 'we aim to'. Maybe i'm being cynical but i have a horrible feeling that once we are out of the way then without a cast iron follow up plan then we will be gone for good and i have no confidence in this certain developer or the council coming through with any promises. My hope is that the delay in announcing the ground we will be at for next season is due to getting the legal parts of the BV revamp tied up which was the plan. I did hear that there was a fly in the ointment there again though as well.

One thing i would ask MC purely as a genuine question is he says he will no longer take on the liability for BV because of its state yet only 12 months ago he signed a new 5 year lease. What has changed since then? To the untrained eye it seems exactly the same as this time last year. Has the health and safety man condemed the place? Are the insurers being a pain in the backside? It might help the fans understand any move.

I'm only guessing here as I've not tweeted my "pal" to ask him, but is it anything to do with the young Leeds fan having a stone/missile thrown at her and getting a nasty gash?

Re: Ground : Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:18 am  

JINJER wrote:

I'm only guessing here as I've not tweeted my "pal" to ask him, but is it anything to do with the young Leeds fan having a stone/missile thrown at her and getting a nasty gash?

No idea, could be. If it is explain that to the supporters and at the same time publicly shame the ends of bells that have caused it. But if the place has been condemned, or the premiums have sky-rocketed then fans will understand the need to go, getting it out in the open will apease most people and ease the move away (providing it is temporary). As i say i'm hopeful that the delay in the announcement is so both the move and the confirmed plan for the future can be announced as one. If MC wants to have the season tickets in sale for the beginning of september then i'd expect something official in week or so after his holiday.