Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:43 am  

Anyone got a link

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:53 am  

Try this.

Try this.

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:40 am  

So pretty much they're against everything!

They're against cars, but own them
They're against public transport but admit they're under serviced.
They suggest 800 parking spaces aren't enough, but don't want car use?
They highlight, the fact that Arriva/Metro are more than happy to arrange match day shuttles for 13/365 days of the year thus reducing traffic issues.
They recognise the need for employment, but only if the unemployed are in a short walking distance to the site? Do all inhabitants of Newmarket Lane work on NM lane?

To be honest i'm quite happy with the document, because it highlights the fact that still after plenty of time to prepare and plan to object against the site they still haven't focused their objection towards several key issues and have rather broadened their objection to encompass everything. In doing so, this means their arguement when specifically analysed point by point is rather flimsy.

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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:59 pm  

I would agree. The document picks on so many diverse issue, it doesn't really back one reason. I know that isn't enough but I think they'd have been better saying, 'there is one big reason why this doesn't work.....' rather than saying every alternative, some of which will be knocked down quite easily.

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:11 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

IA have you seen the 67 page document on the council planning portal from June Fender and co. There are all sorts of allegations from Box having a conflict of interest cos he used to be a consultant for the firm who cleaned the NM site up, to your letter of support being riddled with inaccuracies and at best misleading!!!

Just wondered what you thought of it all.

Other than it was very nice of them to let us have the information we need to counter their arguments in advance, not that we really needed 67 pages of it, then pretty much what TRB posted!

It is full of holes you could drive a bus through... and we intend to do just that!

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:23 pm  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

So pretty much they're against everything!

They're against cars, but own them
They're against public transport but admit they're under serviced.
They suggest 800 parking spaces aren't enough, but don't want car use?
They highlight, the fact that Arriva/Metro are more than happy to arrange match day shuttles for 13/365 days of the year thus reducing traffic issues.
They recognise the need for employment, but only if the unemployed are in a short walking distance to the site? Do all inhabitants of Newmarket Lane work on NM lane?

To be honest i'm quite happy with the document, because it highlights the fact that still after plenty of time to prepare and plan to object against the site they still haven't focused their objection towards several key issues and have rather broadened their objection to encompass everything. In doing so, this means their arguement when specifically analysed point by point is rather flimsy.

That is a good summary... I quite like this, I might read this out to the planning inspector at my evidence session!

The employment thing is their attempt to pick up on a planning technicality!

Sites are assessed for 'public transport accessibility' on this really dumb flow chart system. Basically, if you don't have a current bus stop within 400 metres of the CENTRE of a new site, your site is considered to have a very poor public transport access. Firstly, if the site is not an urban site then all large sites score poorly. It is complete nonsense... and they know it! The extra buses will come when people start working on the site and therefore there is a need for extra buses... chicken and egg!

Newmarket scores poorly on this stupid system... but not quite a poorly as the Aire Valley, which needs a road before you can put a bus stop up and drive a bus anywhere near it!

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:04 pm  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

So pretty much they're against everything!

They're against cars, but own them
They're against public transport but admit they're under serviced.
They suggest 800 parking spaces aren't enough, but don't want car use?
They highlight, the fact that Arriva/Metro are more than happy to arrange match day shuttles for 13/365 days of the year thus reducing traffic issues.
They recognise the need for employment, but only if the unemployed are in a short walking distance to the site? Do all inhabitants of Newmarket Lane work on NM lane?

To be honest i'm quite happy with the document, because it highlights the fact that still after plenty of time to prepare and plan to object against the site they still haven't focused their objection towards several key issues and have rather broadened their objection to encompass everything. In doing so, this means their arguement when specifically analysed point by point is rather flimsy.

Maybe someone should also mention to them on the quiet that, should the Newmarket development not get the go ahead, then it has apparently been discussed in high places that the site would go on the (now quite short) list of places that a certain necessary development that has recently been pulled from Walton and previously from Ossett could go. I'm sure that would please them.....

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:48 pm  

sixtogo wrote:

Maybe someone should also mention to them on the quiet that, should the Newmarket development not get the go ahead, then it has apparently been discussed in high places that the site would go on the (now quite short) list of places that a certain necessary development that has recently been pulled from Walton and previously from Ossett could go. I'm sure that would please them.....

which is what?

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:55 pm  

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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:10 pm  

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