Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 8:54 am  

Since the survey only allows one vote I thought I'd share my thoughts. Based on rumours as to who may/may not have applied I list below who are my preferred options for the next coach (in order of priority - so no 1 is my first choice for coach):-

1. John Kear
2. Dave Woods
3. Jason Demetriou
4. Glenn Morrison
5. Brian Noble

All other proposed candidates I'm not really interested in and find reason why I don't want them as coach.

Any of the above 5 I'd be happy with. However I think Kear (and I'm warming to Woods) are the stand out choices for me to give us the best chance of staying up with our current squad.

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 8:54 am  

Willzay wrote:

Monaghan atm is not the right man for us, regardless of his playing career. I wouldn't say no to him signing on as a player though, and I'd stick him in the halves. But for coach, it'd be similar to appointing Webster

Like you I wouldn't mind him coming as a player but not as a coach, he's less experience than what Webster has and I'm not so sure that Laurence F at Catalan's has enough experience himself for him to learn from, that said coaching jobs including those of assistant coach don't come available that often, imo he'd be better of there for now getting more needed experience at the same time working with better players not to mention a better life style, and would be in the box seat if the club fell out with LF.

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:16 am  

Monaghan is a gamble, he's never coached before and being a great player guarantees nothing. Look at Briers, same type of quality but not deemed ready to even be assistant at Warrington, Agar seen as the better option. He might turn out to be a superb Coach though but we can't afford to be his coaching experiment

Woods is a great self publicist, but has never Coached at anywhere near SL level so despite success at a number of lower league clubs he's a huge gamble as well.

Kear remains a strong option but only in the short term, he's not the right man to set the club up for future success.

Morrison looks almost ready but from what I hear it's Glenn himself who has reservations about whether this is the time and whether Wakefield is the Club especially given their current state. Then there's the refusal to talk to him which seems to end that one once and for all.

Neil Kelly perceived to have been out of the game for a while so might be out of touch. Though he's been operating at the top level of Rugby Union, Coaching international Coaches and will have some fresh ideas to bring. Good track record, 2006 SL Coach of the year, GF wins, promotions, international Coach.

Noble, like Kear but not as good at handling our kind of issues IMO

JD is a funny one, he has done great at Keighley and Northern Pride but they too are at a lower evel than SL. He's enjoyed the presence of some very good players in his teams which has given him an advantage. He's progressing through an NRL pathway and is very well thought of so will he abandon that and uproot his family again?

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:31 am  

The Avenger I'm reading your article and you seem to have reservations for a lot of the key candidates. Is there anyone who'd be your out and out favourite, with least reservations about?

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:34 am  

The Avenger wrote: JD is a funny one, he has done great at Keighley and Northern Pride but they too are at a lower level than SL. I bet Northern Pride would beat Trinity... No comment on Steve McCormack...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McCormack

The Avenger wrote: JD is a funny one, he has done great at Keighley and Northern Pride but they too are at a lower level than SL. I bet Northern Pride would beat Trinity... No comment on Steve McCormack...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McCormack

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Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:38 am  

The Avenger wrote:

Monaghan is a gamble, he's never coached before and being a great player guarantees nothing. Look at Briers, same type of quality but not deemed ready to even be assistant at Warrington, Agar seen as the better option. He might turn out to be a superb Coach though but we can't afford to be his coaching experiment

Woods is a great self publicist, but has never Coached at anywhere near SL level so despite success at a number of lower league clubs he's a huge gamble as well.

Kear remains a strong option but only in the short term, he's not the right man to set the club up for future success.

Morrison looks almost ready but from what I hear it's Glenn himself who has reservations about whether this is the time and whether Wakefield is the Club especially given their current state. Then there's the refusal to talk to him which seems to end that one once and for all.

Neil Kelly perceived to have been out of the game for a while so might be out of touch. Though he's been operating at the top level of Rugby Union, Coaching international Coaches and will have some fresh ideas to bring. Good track record, 2006 SL Coach of the year, GF wins, promotions, international Coach.

Noble, like Kear but not as good at handling our kind of issues IMO

JD is a funny one, he has done great at Keighley and Northern Pride but they too are at a lower evel than SL. He's enjoyed the presence of some very good players in his teams which has given him an advantage. He's progressing through an NRL pathway and is very well thought of so will he abandon that and uproot his family again?

I would disagree with that. I think Kear is very much a long term building coach. We just need to give him some infrastructure to build on rather than no money and first team results are the only judgement.

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:44 am  

wildshot wrote:

The Avenger I'm reading your article and you seem to have reservations for a lot of the key candidates. Is there anyone who'd be your out and out favourite, with least reservations about?

Of the candidates I know, and there's a few I don't know the names of as we are apparently into double figures in terms of applications, they each have a level of uncertainty around them but they all have some great attributes as well. The dream team might be Kear with Morrison as his assistant with the long term plan being Morrison taking over in 6 to 12 months.

That's probably off the table due to Mark Sawyers refusal to speak to his Coach and what seems to be Glenn's reservations about whether this is right for him, there's also the matter of both Batley and Dewsbury being compensated when we have no money.

I like the idea of Kelly as he's a Wakefield man though I have mixed feelings about his time away from the game. On the one hand I wonder how much has changed during his time Coaching Union but then again if we appointed Sean Edwards no one would worry about him never having coached League and being out of the game for over a decade.

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:47 am  

PopTart wrote:

I would disagree with that. I think Kear is very much a long term building coach. We just need to give him some infrastructure to build on rather than no money and first team results are the only judgement.

Based on his previous record at Wakefield, he totally ignored the Youth structure, in fact, he raided it of every resource other than players and left it years behind that of other SL clubs.
Not much long term succession planning going on there!

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 9:52 am  

asmadasa wrote: I bet Northern Pride would beat Trinity... No comment on Steve McCormack...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McCormack Regards Northern Pride, you might be correct but would they be capable of beating Wigan, Sts, Warrington, Leeds etc.. They're at a lower standard than SL fact! That said they've had or have a number of players who would be handy additions to most SL teams. Sorry, just an oversight regard McCormack I like McCormack, he's still relatively young and has lots of experience. He seems well liked by his players and has done well with some big characters in his capacity as Scotland Coach. His record at Club level is mainly in the lower Leagues with the exception being Salford where he struggled but who hasn't. Maybe SL and Salford were too much too early for him but he's never been offered anything at that level since?

asmadasa wrote: I bet Northern Pride would beat Trinity... No comment on Steve McCormack...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McCormack Regards Northern Pride, you might be correct but would they be capable of beating Wigan, Sts, Warrington, Leeds etc.. They're at a lower standard than SL fact! That said they've had or have a number of players who would be handy additions to most SL teams. Sorry, just an oversight regard McCormack I like McCormack, he's still relatively young and has lots of experience. He seems well liked by his players and has done well with some big characters in his capacity as Scotland Coach. His record at Club level is mainly in the lower Leagues with the exception being Salford where he struggled but who hasn't. Maybe SL and Salford were too much too early for him but he's never been offered anything at that level since?

Re: New Coach, Who? : Wed May 27, 2015 11:21 am  

If we are looking at someone in aus could it be one of the following?
Justin Morgan
Ian millward
Mick potter

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