Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:50 pm  

Fordy wrote:

Funny how people interpret things. My reading of it was that the mitigation was "site specific" ie had to be applied at that site - in other words a redevelopment of Belle Vue would not be possible under this agreement. I'm not sure that makes sense thinking about it but just proves how things can be interpreted differently.

I'm not a lawyer, or a planner, or a developer so don't know, but that was my initial thought.

Me neither and I'll stand being corrected by those more in the know!

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:45 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

Me neither and I'll stand being corrected by those more in the know!

What is abundantly clear from the inspectors report is that he understood that a stadium would be built in return for granting PP. That it has not happened, and the NC site was granted outside of the 106 is wholly wrong!

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:51 pm  

TRB wrote:

What is abundantly clear from the inspectors report is that he understood that a stadium would be built in return for granting PP. That it has not happened, and the NC site was granted outside of the 106 is wholly wrong!

Is there any mileage in the mitigation being site specific and therefore attached to the site rather than the planning application, because if that's the case then any new planning approval for that site should really have the mitigation come with it.

Given that the building is the same one from the PI then the level of mitigation i.e. the surrounding, mitigating community structures should have been exactly the same as detailed in the PI and S106

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:20 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

Is there any mileage in the mitigation being site specific and therefore attached to the site rather than the planning application, because if that's the case then any new planning approval for that site should really have the mitigation come with it.

Given that the building is the same one from the PI then the level of mitigation i.e. the surrounding, mitigating community structures should have been exactly the same as detailed in the PI and S106

To clarify - the Newcold site is nothing like the outline plans and would therefore always be a new application. It is our contention that it could, and should, have contributed to the 106.

Newcold has gone. We can do no more with it, but we can have a say in whatever comes next - and we will!

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:25 pm  

TRB wrote:

To clarify - the Newcold site is nothing like the outline plans and would therefore always be a new application. It is our contention that it could, and should, have contributed to the 106.

Newcold has gone. We can do no more with it, but we can have a say in whatever comes next - and we will!

so you can put a spanner in the works for the next project then

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:04 am  

Never mind a spanner....we should be tipping the whole darn toolbox in there

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:28 pm  

snowie wrote:

so you can put a spanner in the works for the next project then

Fear and surprise.... and a chance to object to any future development on that site!

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:48 pm  

TRB wrote:

What is abundantly clear from the inspectors report is that he understood that a stadium would be built in return for granting PP. That it has not happened, and the NC site was granted outside of the 106 is wholly wrong!

It was pointed out several times at the PI that the 106 promised nothing all if and but's , even went the final 106 was submitted everyone hoped it would but it was the same unchanged 106 ,still with no promise

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:39 pm  

TV200 wrote:

It was pointed out several times at the PI that the 106 promised nothing all if and but's , even went the final 106 was submitted everyone hoped it would but it was the same unchanged 106 ,still with no promise

Here he is, Mr Smartypants!

The final 106 agreement was submitted long after the PI. You must be really clever to have seen it and comment on it!

Any thoughts related to RL?

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:26 pm  

TRB wrote:

Here he is, Mr Smartypants!

The final 106 agreement was submitted long after the PI. You must be really clever to have seen it and comment on it!

Any thoughts related to RL?

Yes I know there was an draft copy out long before and that's why it was pointed out it does promise.
Also I remember you seem to have a go at people who spoke about Mr Box , you don't seem to hold that view anymore ....Why?
All I've done is point out what you Diretors have missed.
Ask yourself why did the club and other disappear into the background once the planing had been granted