Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 5:34 pm  

PopTart wrote:

He does. But your statement that it is on the RFL website, seems to no longer be true. Which casts doubt.

I don't know either way, but as I said in my original post, JM told us it was being worked out in a different way, based on his meeting with IMG.
So to answer your question, I do believe him, but time has moved on since then and IMG may have changed the details.

No, it's still there. There seems to be an issue that when you try to cut and paste the link, it changes the URL but if you google "rugbyleague.com uploads" it will come up as one of the first links.

In any case, as mentioned earlier, captaincaveman has cut and pasted the relevant parts. It's fairly well documented that some chairmen and CEOs didn't understand a lot of the implications of grading when the inital document was released and that's partly why I highlighted this specific point - it's of much bigger implication than many will grasp from such a long document.

To put it into context - if the 3-year on-field performance grading of Wakefield, Fev or Cas ended up being nine positions higher than that of Bradford (eg finishing 11th compared to 20th for Bradford), and all other gradings were equal (just for the sake of this argument), Bradford's score of 1.5 for catchment area compared to 0.5 for the three WF teams would see them ranked higher overall.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:15 pm  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

No, it's still there. There seems to be an issue that when you try to cut and paste the link, it changes the URL but if you google "rugbyleague.com uploads" it will come up as one of the first links.

In any case, as mentioned earlier, captaincaveman has cut and pasted the relevant parts. It's fairly well documented that some chairmen and CEOs didn't understand a lot of the implications of grading when the inital document was released and that's partly why I highlighted this specific point - it's of much bigger implication than many will grasp from such a long document.

To put it into context - if the 3-year on-field performance grading of Wakefield, Fev or Cas ended up being nine positions higher than that of Bradford (eg finishing 11th compared to 20th for Bradford), and all other gradings were equal (just for the sake of this argument), Bradford's score of 1.5 for catchment area compared to 0.5 for the three WF teams would see them ranked higher overall.

It is what it is, it’s up to us to achieve all criteria best we can, I’m confident of us achieving a decent IMG score for top 12.

Up the Trin

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:32 pm  

Points awarded for attendance http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... d=12669859

Points awarded for attendance http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... d=12669859

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Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:42 pm  

If that is in fact how they quantify it, then it is flawed.
Even if Wakefield and Cas weren't there Fev would not command a third of the area.
Plus, if we are saying the reach is challenged by another club, why not continue the reach where there is no club? Why can't we say we have a reach into Barnsley?

I don't think this is the end of the story. I think savvy chairmen will aim to get more points out of that.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:50 pm  

PT, never seen you so riled. Did you not previously realise that IMG is a group of shyster mercenaries? Of course the metrics are flawed but not for achieving the primary goals of the remit.

Back in the day, the big clubs introduced franchising (of course very unpopular and ultimately doomed). This time round they've employed supposed pros to do it . The top clubs benefit but they divert the blame elsewhere.

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Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:14 pm  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

PT, never seen you so riled. Did you not previously realise that IMG is a group of shyster mercenaries? Of course the metrics are flawed but not for achieving the primary goals of the remit.

Back in the day, the big clubs introduced franchising (of course very unpopular and ultimately doomed). This time round they've employed supposed pros to do it . The top clubs benefit but they divert the blame elsewhere.

Lol. I'm not riled. Just disappointed we missed out on points I thought we were getting.
I'm OK with franchising. As long as the criteria is achievable and fair.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:49 pm  

Well recovered.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:14 pm  

New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel; https://m.youtube.com/@WakefieldTrinityRLFC Now more then ever supporters need to subscribe and watch the video's. The club need to make engaging content to keep interest up. Rightly or wrongly this kind of stuff will now have a say on who makes up the top flight. Just watched the Inside Trintiy video. Good start, hopefully it will grow in quality and entertainment.

New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel; https://m.youtube.com/@WakefieldTrinityRLFC Now more then ever supporters need to subscribe and watch the video's. The club need to make engaging content to keep interest up. Rightly or wrongly this kind of stuff will now have a say on who makes up the top flight. Just watched the Inside Trintiy video. Good start, hopefully it will grow in quality and entertainment.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:11 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote: New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel; https://m.youtube.com/@WakefieldTrinityRLFC Now more then ever supporters need to subscribe and watch the video's. The club need to make engaging content to keep interest up. Rightly or wrongly this kind of stuff will now have a say on who makes up the top flight. Just watched the Inside Trintiy video. Good start, hopefully it will grow in quality and entertainment. Subscribed

Khlav Kalash wrote: New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel; https://m.youtube.com/@WakefieldTrinityRLFC Now more then ever supporters need to subscribe and watch the video's. The club need to make engaging content to keep interest up. Rightly or wrongly this kind of stuff will now have a say on who makes up the top flight. Just watched the Inside Trintiy video. Good start, hopefully it will grow in quality and entertainment. Subscribed

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:14 pm  

Some more information and a couple of tweets, could it really be possible for a 14 team SL happening?

Breaking News from the RFL.

RL Commercial will enter a 30-day exclusive negotiating period with Sky Sports to formalise the broadcast rights agreement.

It would appear the RFL have managed to increase the offer made from Sky from £17M to £20M+ a decrease on the current deal.

22nd August - for immediate release
Update on Broadcast Rights
Following a meeting of RL Commercial, IMG and Super League (Europe) Shareholders, RL Commercial will now enter a 30-day exclusive negotiating period with Sky Sports to formalise and
contract the broadcast rights agreement. This follows a period of activity in the market that saw multiple bids tabled for the rights, with all
stakeholders convinced Sky Sports are offering the best deal for the Super League competition. It would see the partnership with Sky Sports extend for a further three years, until the end of the 2026 season - which would include the 30th anniversary of the launch of Super League's
partnership with Sky Sports for the inaugural season in 1996. Under the proposed deal, the partnership would include the live broadcast of every Super League fixture, to the UK and worldwide - a transformative development for the competition. This would
also allow for video match officials to be appointed for every match.
There would also be the continuation of a free-to-air window.
Further details will be shared on the conclusion of the negotiating period.
Ends...

What is interesting from the meeting with clubs today is that the competition structure will change as the sport of Rugby League works around what the broadcasters want, not what the self serving Super League clubs want. It’s taken a further reduction to hammer home this message.
The top tier to expand to 14 clubs is what I’m hearing which would finally remove the awful loop fixtures. That gives Championship clubs like Bradford, Featherstone, Newcastle and York hope that they accumulate enough IMG points to make the 13th and 14th positions.