Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:31 am  

no dont want it locking just makeing a statement that rebelrebel has been quiet on this post but he locks everything that bazzo44 has an opinion on.

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:34 am  

trinfan71 wrote:

1. The reason people have a go at these two in particular is because they are simply in the firing line because of the way they defend the club (rightly of wrongly). As I posted on another thread some time ago people need someone to shake a stick at when they want / need answers. The club that people are so quick to defend are the one's who put these individuals in the firing line. What we have is a couple of passionate supporters who have gone above and beyond the role of the casual supporter. As far as every supporter being committed to the cause - they are committed to the cause, but no believing in the BoD or people within the club does not make a person any less committed. If you are looking for everyone to go along with everything club has to offer at the moment then can I suggest you move to Disneyland. You will find the fairytale you are looking for there.

For argument sake can you please tell me how a club that barely survives season after with decreasing attendances would be better off without the supporters who see it differently.

The fact is we are in this position because of the Chairman and the Board of Directors. They were taken in by Pearman, there are the one's who promised that our stadium would be updated when we won our right to super league (on appeal). Three years ago they were aware that things needed to be done to either sort out Belle Vue or to move. Once again they have struggled to deliver but have never struggled to point the finger at other people when it goes wrong. It's true what they say about excuses 'They are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink.'

The frustration comes from the lack of information, whether it be good or bad. I, along with many others don't expect the club to publicly state their accounts or go into great detail, but surely there would be less doom and gloom if somebody told us what was being done to try and maintain our future not only in Super League but as a club.

Just a simple statement along the lines of 'We as a club are frustrated at the decision for the current stadium plans but please bear with us. We have a fall back plan, unfortunately we are not in a position to release details until after our shareholders meeting.'

Instead some vague line now and again followed by the standard 'Together we are stronger'

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:38 am  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

if your gonna say stuff at least have some backside to stand by it, some of you lot change your mind more than your clothes.

My comments re the clubs position i do stand by and always will, somewhere during 2009 we got it badly wrong and we are paying for it now, newmarket or no newmarket the fans have gone and the current squad will not bring them back.

Any comments blaming trb and especially BigAl blaming them for everything you surely did not take without a pinch of salt, I dont know enough about the inside of the club to know whos to blame, but I do know enough about business modelling to know someone made a mistake in that period.

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:50 am  

chapster wrote:

but I do know enough about business modelling to know someone made a mistake in that period.

It makes you wonder what would have happened if Brough, Newton & Tronc had stayed. When they left, and free'd up, what, must have been 300+ grand in wages, we couldn't replace like-for-like because we didn't have the cash.

I don't think we'd have been able to pay everyone come the end of the season.

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:56 am  

chapster wrote:

My comments re the clubs position i do stand by and always will, somewhere during 2009 we got it badly wrong and we are paying for it now, newmarket or no newmarket the fans have gone and the current squad will not bring them back.

Any comments blaming trb and especially BigAl blaming them for everything you surely did not take without a pinch of salt, I dont know enough about the inside of the club to know whos to blame, but I do know enough about business modelling to know someone made a mistake in that period.

course i did but for gods sake but you didnt even blame anyone. personally i dont like how TRB he stands up for the club but thats his choice, but even i couldnt blame him for how poorly the club is run, but i could blame fans for standing for it

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:00 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

course i did but for gods sake but you didnt even blame anyone. personally i dont like how TRB he stands up for the club but thats his choice, but even i couldnt blame him for how poorly the club is run, but i could blame fans for standing for it

What's the plan then? Cos posting messages on an internet forum is hardly gonna bring down the Richardsons or get rid of Kear. What action do you think people should take?

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:09 pm  

J.T wrote:

What's the plan then? Cos posting messages on an internet forum is hardly gonna bring down the Richardsons or get rid of Kear. What action do you think people should take?

well kear will not go weve no money, but i can see him getting some right flak this season. the richardsons run the club like a family corner shop, its our club, the fans and we should damand change through protest. we cant keep going on like this, yes imloyal to the club but we wont have much left if this carries on. do you think fans will desert us next year, it looks like were in for the fight of our lives to save the club, ted and the rest will have to be carried out kicking and screaming. he will never sell he likes the limelight too much

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:26 pm  

J.T wrote:

What's the plan then? Cos posting messages on an internet forum is hardly gonna bring down the Richardsons or get rid of Kear. What action do you think people should take?

Sorry fact is I think there is nothing fans can do, theres no one to sell club to so theres no one we can back, unless someone with megabucks comes along in next 12-18 months or so I think we may be heading for at best the nl or at worst for the end, simple fact is our base of home fans was not enough last year, i fear it will be less this year, and when we move away it will diminish again, thus the money will keep going down and the playing standards will drop leading to gates dropping further etc etc etc its a spiral and its already started.
The only action we can take is to try and face facts and ask ourselves honestly what do we want from our club?
And perhaps face the toughest 2 decisions ever,
1 do we need to put in for a franchise now or drop a league and consolidate / rebuild
2 Do we need newmarket until the above has happened?

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:39 pm  

westgate wildcat wrote:

no dont want it locking just makeing a statement that rebelrebel has been quiet on this post but he locks everything that bazzo44 has an opinion on.

Yeah, it's a personal thing. I hate bazzo44 and get a real buzz from locking his threads. Just can't help myself. Now if you want to add anything to that, do it by PM.

Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:40 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

roll up for the resident comedian,your pure quality

Cheers!