Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Thu May 04, 2023 8:31 am  

Some sycophants can’t see the wood for the trees. We are all fans and naturally expect better from its custodians. Remove the sand pit so heads are viewing what is happening.

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Thu May 04, 2023 10:11 am  

PopTart wrote:

I'm pretty sure of 2 things
1) he didn't say not to give constructive criticism
2) there has been no constructive criticism raised as far as I can see so no need to worry.

He seems to be missing the point as re. 'criticism.' As do a lot of others. First of all, when football, rugby, fans of any sporting club say something like, God we are crap....clearly that's not constructive, but it's not supposed to be!! It's people venting their frustration, anger, despondency at their teams performances. You can go back to Victorian times when paying 'spectators' used to throw tomatoes at stage performers because they were unhappy with what they were seeing, having paid their hard earned to witness a 'performance.' That's just the way it is, right or wrong. He's very naïve if he thinks that fans aren't going to have a go. It's like he's created this world where, you can only speak when things are going well, just give praise, but when things go wrong, say nothing at all?!

Wakefield Trinity compared to Premier league football is obviously small fry, Spurs actually refunded the fans who travelled to Newcastle the other week because they gave a sub-standard performance. I think there has been some who have tried to be constructive at times, instead of just saying we are rubbish, but the longer the losing run goes on, how can you find ANYTHING constructive or positive to say about on field performances?! You would have to make things up just for the sake of positivity.....

[PopTart]

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Thu May 04, 2023 10:53 am  

Wildmoggy wrote:

He seems to be missing the point as re. 'criticism.' As do a lot of others. First of all, when football, rugby, fans of any sporting club say something like, God we are crap....clearly that's not constructive, but it's not supposed to be!! It's people venting their frustration, anger, despondency at their teams performances. You can go back to Victorian times when paying 'spectators' used to throw tomatoes at stage performers because they were unhappy with what they were seeing, having paid their hard earned to witness a 'performance.' That's just the way it is, right or wrong. He's very naïve if he thinks that fans aren't going to have a go. It's like he's created this world where, you can only speak when things are going well, just give praise, but when things go wrong, say nothing at all?!

Wakefield Trinity compared to Premier league football is obviously small fry, Spurs actually refunded the fans who travelled to Newcastle the other week because they gave a sub-standard performance. I think there has been some who have tried to be constructive at times, instead of just saying we are rubbish, but the longer the losing run goes on, how can you find ANYTHING constructive or positive to say about on field performances?! You would have to make things up just for the sake of positivity.....

I completely agree.

But the criticism isn't always like that.
Even in this thread it is "he is crap" and "he did this on purpose because he wants to take us to championship"
When people either make things up or draw a conclusion based on nothing but their own agenda but post it as a fact......it isn't the same as you describe.

But I also agree with Slugger, he should choose where he says that a little better.

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Fri May 05, 2023 10:25 am  

PopTart wrote:

I completely agree.

But the criticism isn't always like that.
Even in this thread it is "he is crap" and "he did this on purpose because he wants to take us to championship"
When people either make things up or draw a conclusion based on nothing but their own agenda but post it as a fact......it isn't the same as you describe.

But I also agree with Slugger, he should choose where he says that a little better.

I agree that things have been said about MC that just aren't true, and you do wonder what some people's motives are. I don't do Facebook or Twitter, but i'm aware of some of the stuff posted, and clearly personal abuse etc is not on, and they should be dealt with accordingly, but as with every social media platforms, that rarely happens.....

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Fri May 05, 2023 2:07 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

I agree that things have been said about MC that just aren't true, and you do wonder what some people's motives are. I don't do Facebook or Twitter, but i'm aware of some of the stuff posted, and clearly personal abuse etc is not on, and they should be dealt with accordingly, but as with every social media platforms, that rarely happens.....

What’s been said about Carter that you know not to be true?

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Fri May 05, 2023 3:54 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

What’s been said about Carter that you know not to be true?

I saw something a few days ago that I won’t repost on here but let’s just say it was swiftly removed and a good job it was too.

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Fri May 05, 2023 6:16 pm  

The bloke states he is only wanting justified constructive criticism , OK fair enough I could go with that. However I would also like to hear some truthful apologies from Carter. I would like to hear him being honest and accept he has made numerous bad recruitment calls that has lead to the state we are in. However , he will never admit that and all he says is that we don't have any money. When he mans up and accepts he is not qualified or skilled enough to be CEO/Rugby director, he will get far more respect I would imagine

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Thu May 11, 2023 8:31 pm  

12/12. Jokers the lot of em.

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm  

Willzay wrote:

12/12. Jokers the lot of em.

Couldn't agree more

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Thu May 11, 2023 8:59 pm  

I've seen us lose 12 on the bounce before, bit this feels different, even during that Harbin run in 2001 there was still hope, and it culminated in that crazy day in Salford. I have none now.