Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:26 pm  

I don't know how to do links so please don't shoot the messenger On the Cas forum some one is questioning who the trust are actually negotiating with. The "developer" company ( Yorkcourt 2008 Ltd ) which is party to the S106 agreement is no longer in the hands of Yorkcourt or their directors ( Mackie and Jones ).
Shoremayne ( Yorcourt properties recent new name ) made a further loss of £1.5 million last year and the parent company are in debt to the tune of £31.5 million.
I don't pretend to understand it all but some one on here may.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:38 pm  

It tells us they don't have any intention to fund any sort of stadium development.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:25 pm  

We can slate anyone we like who has previously tried to bring it about, but it's as simple as this:
Trust: pay for our stadium, You promised.
Developer: we don't want to pay for your stadium, even if we did promise. Unless the council force us. Are you going to do that?
Council: we're not planning on doing that.
Developer: there you go. Dewsbury is that way.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:57 pm  

I've had a look on the council website and they claim that there isn't a section 106 in place. Merely a "unilateral undertaking" http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/planning/regeneration/wakefield-wildcats-stadium Is this the case? I was led to believe that the council had in fact signed a s106?

I've had a look on the council website and they claim that there isn't a section 106 in place. Merely a "unilateral undertaking" http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/planning/regeneration/wakefield-wildcats-stadium Is this the case? I was led to believe that the council had in fact signed a s106?

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:25 am  

It doesn't matter what it is. It's like a contract. Despite what a contract says, if a wronged party won't take action for non-compliance, it's worthless. The same here. It might as well be a cartoon elephant for the good it does.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:22 am  

Can TRB tell us what " no brainer " deal was offered ? Plus TRB did say that they were meeting yc on a weekly basis ,surely something thing was positive ,if not let's hear the truth now !!

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:38 am  

TrinityIHC wrote: I've had a look on the council website and they claim that there isn't a section 106 in place. Merely a "unilateral undertaking" http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/planning/regeneration/wakefield-wildcats-stadium Is this the case? I was led to believe that the council had in fact signed a s106? There is a Unilateral Undertaking in place. It is a Unilateral Undertaking persuant to Section 106 of The Town & Country Planning Act 1990 so you can say what you want but it is a 106 Agreement. The Council are right, they did not sign the UU because it is what it says it is, a UU. They are however, despite their denials PARTY to the UU because the UU is GIVEN by Yorkcourt TO Wakefield MDC and as Planning Authority the Council have the responsibility for enforcing the UU. The Club and Stadium Trust are NOT party to the UU so cannot enforce it. As Slugger has said it is a CONTRACT to which the Council are a party and they seem to be struggling with the basics of The Law of Contract. By the way for the benefit of the Council its not the "Wildcats Stadium" it is a Community Stadium for the citizens of Wakefield of which 15,000 of them signed a petition in support. To Cosmic Cat and everyone on on here we share your frustration, just think how we feel, but I would hope that there will be a statement in the next few weeks because I think we owe it to ourselves and yourselves to explain the situation.

TrinityIHC wrote: I've had a look on the council website and they claim that there isn't a section 106 in place. Merely a "unilateral undertaking" http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/planning/regeneration/wakefield-wildcats-stadium Is this the case? I was led to believe that the council had in fact signed a s106? There is a Unilateral Undertaking in place. It is a Unilateral Undertaking persuant to Section 106 of The Town & Country Planning Act 1990 so you can say what you want but it is a 106 Agreement. The Council are right, they did not sign the UU because it is what it says it is, a UU. They are however, despite their denials PARTY to the UU because the UU is GIVEN by Yorkcourt TO Wakefield MDC and as Planning Authority the Council have the responsibility for enforcing the UU. The Club and Stadium Trust are NOT party to the UU so cannot enforce it. As Slugger has said it is a CONTRACT to which the Council are a party and they seem to be struggling with the basics of The Law of Contract. By the way for the benefit of the Council its not the "Wildcats Stadium" it is a Community Stadium for the citizens of Wakefield of which 15,000 of them signed a petition in support. To Cosmic Cat and everyone on on here we share your frustration, just think how we feel, but I would hope that there will be a statement in the next few weeks because I think we owe it to ourselves and yourselves to explain the situation.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:06 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Without a doubt there are certain other people who need chastising publicly for this. Sadly the horse has already probably bolted in terms of having any beneficial effect whatsoever.

Indeed - that ship sailed some time ago; the time to use PR to apply pressure to YC was early doors - now they've got Council backing, a site that is already making money, and a precedent set by the Council to allow them to develop it further. Why on earth would they give away millions of quid if they don't have to?

We've been played - again.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:24 pm  

The idea against a public/viral campaign exposing the corrupt/unfair nature of how we've been treated in all this, was that negotiations were still on going and so we didn't want to rock the boat, as far as I'm aware. Now hopes of negotiations have all but faded, surely if time for us to get this plastered all over the internet and anywhere else with the details so people can see for themselves. Even if it changes nothing, at least it exposes the corrupt nature of certain governing bodies.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:02 pm  

Just opened your link Jizzer. The headline was "WAKEFIELD DISTRICT COUNCIL- WORKING FOR YOU". What a laugh. Can we get them under the Trades Description Act?