Re: junior rugby 2014 : Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:09 pm  

Anyone attend the Embed the Pathway session at Wakefield yesterday?

Some interesting stuff and plenty food for thought

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:47 pm  

Hutchie wrote:

Anyone attend the Embed the Pathway session at Wakefield yesterday?

Some interesting stuff and plenty food for thought

No I was busy, though I must say I'm strongly opposed to the notion that somehow no rep rugby until u15s is a good thing. That combined with saying an extended CPD programme replaces this and the idea of volunteer coaches profiling their players and feeding back to the rfl is barking. They ought to save their pennies rather than buying 'embed the pathway' jackets, bags, ipads and nice lunches!

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:59 pm  

Seth wrote:

The problem for us comes as we're not playing a team in the cup so therefore have to use ours this weekend and if we get through have to throw our league game 0-18 when we play in the 1/4s. The games with 2 barla cup teams will get the opportunity to delay their postponement til the following round should they get through. Either way the governing bodies need to sort the shambles out.

I got the impression from our secretary,that it was irrlevant who your opponents were.
Basically you have one postponement allowed to be used in the barla cup,but it carries forward with you each round you remain in the cup.Once you are out of the cup the postponement has been used.So in effect you can use the postponement 4 times.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:58 pm  

I am still under the impression the YJARL have been told by the RFL (after being approached by BARLA) that YJARL are not to penalise any team for their participation in the BARLA national (and any future) cups.
However I do understand that they are sometimes known for making up their own rules when the situation suits

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:48 am  

Seth wrote:

No I was busy, though I must say I'm strongly opposed to the notion that somehow no rep rugby until u15s is a good thing. That combined with saying an extended CPD programme replaces this and the idea of volunteer coaches profiling their players and feeding back to the rfl is barking. They ought to save their pennies rather than buying 'embed the pathway' jackets, bags, ipads and nice lunches!

Im complaining, i never got an Ipad !!

there will be a lot of oppostition to the RFLs plans, for some Rep rugby is the be all and end all for everything, but when you look at the facts and figures they present, you can see why they are trying to address the drop out rates and the reasons for kids dropping out at age 14 and 15 preodiminantly.

Teams having to postpone fixtures or have blank weekends because 6 or8 of there squad are away with rep teams, players having to choose between training with there club or scholarship team.

problem is that kids are identified at 10-12, get into these squads at 13 -14and stay in, yet ones who develop at 14-16 struggle to break in to the existing set ups.

The whole concepts need re-assessing, ETP may not be the right way going forward but at least they are looking at a different approach.

Im sure we all know kids who stood out head and shoulders above everyone, made every rep team, scholarship. Academy etcy etc but are no longer playing or are in a pub team ?

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:27 am  

That's the plan apparently, for head coaches to be given ipads to profile their players.

Rep Rugby is certainly not the be all and end all for me though I began coaching on service area and scholarship 10 years ago and they were a great environment for both developing players and coaches. The reason they have been scrapped isn't because that's the best thing for developing players but because they've lost the funding. Yes I've seen many players enter at rep u13s and never make the step to pro Rugby, but service areas and scholarships aren't the reason for this, it's just the nature of the beast of the standard that's required. On the flip side I coached an u13 SA team that included Liam Sutcliffe, Jordan baldwinson, Micky learmonth, brad day to name a few.

Other sports have rep programmes, it's good for players to be exposed to this environment. Take a lad I coach at club level now, also a very talented BMX racer and been asked by British cycling to represent his country. As our games have moved to Sunday's and he races on Sundays I've had a job convincing him that rep opportunities will start to happen in Rugby. Thankfully he's stayed with us though could easily have been lost.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:03 pm  

End of the day Seth it comes down to the common decency of Stanningley as a team.

I would prefer to take my chances and play for victory . However how many can honestly say that they wouldnt be tempted in being gifted 2pts against the hull sides , crigg , east leeds etc later on in the season.

Or if it guaranteed a certain set of circumstances that benefited your club.

so the solution is plain and simple. Dont punish success . Can you imagine this in any other sport ?

As financialtimes as said though if you stomp your feet hard enough you should be ok. Not the best prep for Oulton is it but best of luck from all of us mate,

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:07 pm  

Just a quickie .

Anyone in the know as to why Hunslet Warriors have vanished of the under 14s fixtures?
They had a game this weekend thats now gone, but its not even marked as postponed the YJL website have completely removed the name and onky a blank space exists.

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:14 pm  

Cas panthers 14s beat dewsbury Celtic 12-18 in a tough season opener.

Both teams defended really well but why oh why are u14s playing on a pitch which was about 60 yard by 30 when there is a perfectly good full size field at the side of it.teams will find it tough to find room if this pitch if it is continued to be used for there home games.

It may restrict teams that like to move the ball about but I'm not so sure it helps the development of there own players!!!!

Re: junior rugby 2014 : Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:02 pm  

In the Barla cup u14s

Siddal 34 -12 Thatto Heath.

Next up in cup for Siddal - East Hull at Siddal.